Hi Scott: Thanks, turning DEBUG on helped understanding your explanation.
It appears as if DENIC is setting up domains they "host" themselves as "hosts" in their own .DE zone, instead of as "zones". Hard to imagine that the zone of a major industrial country would be so terribly mismanaged... - but certainly looks that way. While your web sites operate correctly, it may be something you have to keep in mind when testing for the existence of domains in Declude. (Although I believe, you always look for A and MX records, so even this quirky configuration in the .DE namespace would still work.) Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax: +1 201 934-9206 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 06:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DNSREPORT/DNSSTUFF: DNS Lookup is Broken? >okay, I begin to understand that DNSREPORT/DNSSTUFF is having trouble >dealing with the DNS information <G> You're wrong here. Those sites are behaving 100% correctly. > - but I can tell you TWO things with >confidence: > >a) Internet Explorer with the Windows Resolver CAN resolve: >http://www.grepel.de/ Correct. The *parent* servers for .de are (incorrectly, IMHO) returning an A record for www.grepel.de. http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/lookup.ch?name=www.grepel.de&type=A will show the same. >b) IMAIL with Windows DNS CAN deliver mail to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >(using the MX record "grepel.de MX 10 mailin.webmailer.de.") Yes -- again, because the .de parent servers are returning an MX record. >Not bad for a domain, which you insists doesn't even exists, eh? <G> It doesn't exist, really. <G> >So - while I start to see that there may be some "issue" with that domain >(e.g, possibly no SOA and/or NS records?) - it DOES exist and it DOES have >MX and A records. "Issues" is an understatement. According to the Internet, the domain is registered (see http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?domain=grepel.de ), but does not exist in DNS. It sounds like the .de parent servers know the A records for www.grepel.de and grepel.de because they were used at one point as NS records. But it is reporting that the grepel.de zone no longer exists. It sounds like the .de zone may be FUBAR. Either that, or it is set up so that the .de parent servers return data for some of the .de subdomains, which is a very bad practice (in that case, you can't do a DNS report on those domains -- because the zones do not exist). Really strange, indeed. -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
