Andy, here is a query by DNS Expert: (NO SOA Record)
Query: grepel.de. Query type: Any record
Recursive query: Yes Authoritative answer: Yes
Query time: 291 ms. Server name: n/a
Answer:
grepel.de. 86400 A 192.67.198.4
grepel.de. 86400 MX 10 mailin.webmailer.de.
Authority:
de. 86400 NS dns.denic.de.
de. 86400 NS dns2.de.net.
de. 86400 NS sss-at.denic.de.
de. 86400 NS sss-de1.de.net.
de. 86400 NS sss-jp.denic.de.
de. 86400 NS sss-nl.denic.de.
de. 86400 NS sss-uk.de.net.
de. 86400 NS sss-us1.de.net.
de. 86400 NS sss-us2.denic.de.
de. 86400 NS auth03.ns.de.uu.net.
de. 86400 NS sunic.sunet.se.
Additional:
dns.denic.de. 86400 A 194.246.96.79
sss-at.denic.de. 86400 A 193.171.255.34
sss-jp.denic.de. 86400 A 210.81.13.179
sss-nl.denic.de. 86400 A 193.0.0.237
sss-us2.denic.de. 86400 A 167.216.196.131
auth03.ns.de.uu.net. 86400 A 192.76.144.16
Query: grepel.de. Query type: SOA record
Recursive query: Yes Authoritative answer: Yes
Query time: 270 ms. Server name: n/a
No records were found.
John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA 92835
www.reliancesoft.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
> Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 1:35 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DNSREPORT/DNSSTUFF: DNS Lookup is
> Broken?
> Importance: High
>
> Hi Scott,
>
> sorry - that reply just makes no sense:
>
> a) >> When a DNS server returns a SOA record in response to a query, it
> means that the queried resource doesn't exist. <<
>
> No - in this case it means I specifically INSTRUCTED NSLOOKUP to return
the
> SOA as my sample showed:
>
> >> set type=soa <<
>
>
> b) >> If you go to
> http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/lookup.ch?name=www3.grepel.de&type=A <<
>
> Why would I do that? Why www3? Where you do get that name from?
>
>
> c) My question was specific to:
>
> http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnstime.ch?name=grepel.de&type=SOA
> http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=grepel.de
>
> I expect BOTH of these to look for the SOA records, not for some imaginary
> "www3" records. Why else does DNSSTUFF let me specify
> "name=grepel.de&type=SOA" ?
>
>
> d) But, since I'm a good sport, I also tried to look up www3.grepel.de:
>
> D:\>nslookup
> > server m.root-servers.net.
> Default Server: m.root-servers.net
> Address: 202.12.27.33
>
> > www3.grepel.de.
> Server: m.root-servers.net
> Address: 202.12.27.33
>
> Name: www3.grepel.de
> Served by:
> - AUTH03.NS.DE.UU.NET
> 192.76.144.16
> de
> - DNS.DENIC.de
> 194.246.96.79
> de
> - SUNIC.SUNET.SE
> 192.36.125.2
> de
> - SSS-AT.DENIC.de
> 193.171.255.34
> de
> - SSS-NL.DENIC.de
> 193.0.0.237
> de
> - SSS-DE1.DE.NET
> 193.159.170.187
> de
> - SSS-UK.DE.NET
> 62.53.3.68
> de
> - DNS2.DE.NET
> 194.246.96.49
> de
> - SSS-JP.DENIC.de
> 210.81.13.179
> de
> - SSS-US1.DE.NET
> 206.65.170.100
> de
>
> > server dns.denic.de.
> Default Server: dns.denic.de
> Address: 194.246.96.79
>
> > set type=a
> > www3.grepel.de.
> Server: dns.denic.de
> Address: 194.246.96.79
>
>
> So again I ask - why can NSLOOKUP find the www3.grepel.de - but DNSSTUFF
> can't?
>
>
>
> Best Regards
> Andy Schmidt
>
> Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
> Fax: +1 201 934-9206
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
> Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 04:19 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DNSREPORT/DNSSTUFF: DNS Lookup is
> Broken?
>
>
>
> >http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=grepel.de
> >
> >results in:
> >[ERROR: The root servers say that the domain grepel.de does not have any
NS
> >records (although they may have some other information on that zone). I
can
> >not do a DNS report on a hostname (such as mail.example.com) or a domain
> >name that does not have its own zone.]
> >
> >http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnstime.ch?name=grepel.de&type=SOA
> >
> >results in:
> >Searching for SOA record for grepel.de at m.root-servers.net: Got
referral
> >to DNS.DENIC.de. [took 241 ms]
> >Searching for SOA record for grepel.de at DNS.DENIC.de.: Reports no SOA
> >records (NODATA type 2). 187ms.
> >Answer: Does not exist.
>
> The problem is with grepel.de.
>
> If you go to
> http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/lookup.ch?name=www3.grepel.de&type=A ,
you'll
> see that the parent ("root") servers for .de say that www3.grepel.de
> doesn't exist -- without ever sending you to NS records for
www3.grepel.de.
>
> >I've been retrying for 15 minutes or so. Yet, at the same time, following
> >that same chain MANUALLY:
>
> But:
>
> > > grepel.de.
> >Server: dns.denic.de
> >Address: 194.246.96.79
> >
> >de
> > primary name server = dns.denic.de
> > responsible mail addr = ops.denic.de
> > serial = 2003010330
> > refresh = 10800 (3 hours)
> > retry = 7200 (2 hours)
> > expire = 3600000 (41 days 16 hours)
> > default TTL = 86400 (1 day)
>
> That's the SOA record for .de. When a DNS server returns a SOA record in
> response to a query, it means that the queried resource doesn't exist.
> -Scott
>
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