Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Clarification

[Matt]

Todd, Initially I didn't understand why the complexity was necessary, however it really is in this case.  We do gain by having the ability to set SKIPIFWEIGHT according to individual tests, for instance, in my negatively weighted PSEUDO-WHITE test, I set the SKIPIFWEIGHT higher than elsewhere just in case something gets clobbered by the RBL's and other tests.   Also, you might want to skip over a very large negatively weighted test if a different threshold has already been reached. What the settings in individual files gives us is added flexibility at the cost of a little extra complexity. Regarding the other Global settings that you mentioned, keep in mind that these would only be useful on servers where everything is treated the same way, and you could only chose one level to stop processing on, not two, because after you stop, you can't keep going :)  It might be nice though to have a SKIPIFLOWWEIGHT test that would stop processing if something scored under a certain number of points, this way a negatively weighted pseudo-white file or a combination of tests could be used to save on processing with the rest of the filters.  Need for this seems somewhat limited at the moment, but it would provide benefit if done properly. SKIPIFWEIGHT could also just simply be appended with two number fields, one high, and one low, and Scott could make that backwards compatible I'm sure. Matt Todd Holt wrote: I would like to see the SKIPIFWEIGHT option removed. If we had a conditional option to stop when a specific weight is reached, then there would be not need for SKIPIFWEIGHT. In addition, why would anyone use SKIPIFWEIGHT on less than every test...and why would anyone define one test with a different SKIPIFWEIGHT value than another test? This leads me back to a HOLDIFWEIGHT/DELETEIFWEIGHT logic which optionally stops processing when reached. Relating to Dave's comments below: Would it not be more flexible to move the <action>IFWEIGHT options to the .junkmail file to take advantage of the available scoping options (system/domain/user)? This is also more consistent with the existing .junkmail options such as HEADER, WARN, DELETE, HOLD... Todd Holt Xidix Technologies, Inc Las Vegas, NV USA www.xidix.com 702.319.4349 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dave Doherty Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 7:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Clarification Scott- I think this is a great idea. Once we know a message has passed the delete limit, why would we want to keep testing it in routine operations? Of course, we'd need to be able to turn it off when needed for debugging or whatever, but it would save a lot of processing time under normal conditions. My suggestion would be to define it in global.cfg (maybe QUITIFWEIGHT ?) and have it become active only when encountered in the junkmail file test sequence. That would let us group the positive tests first, then any tests we considered mandatory, then QUITIFWEIGHT would stop the processing at that point or any later point if the specified weight is met or exceeded. That would minimize the need for SKIPIFWEIGHT and other statements. My two cents worth, anyway. -Dave Doherty Skywaves, Inc. ----- Original Message ----- From: "R. Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 11:41 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Clarification Is there a test, in the works, that will end all processing of any further filters. Basically, exit all Declude processing, or is it best to use the SKIPWEIGHT, thanks, There isn't anything like that in the works now, but it is something that we may end up adding. -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- ===================================================== MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro. http://www.mailpure.com/software/ =====================================================