I guess what I'm trying to say is that I like the concept.... I also agree with all of con's that have presented. It would be nice if there was someway we could automate the whitelist.

What about this spin? What if Declude took the email address that the internal user was sending to and put it in the whitelist? If it's a good address going out then it must be good coming in, right?

Greg

Andy Schmidt wrote:

Hi,



I think the consensus is it is not acceptable <<



Then let mine be the only opposing voice.


I think because of Declude's weight features, Challenge/Response would be a
very valuable and very usable option.

Any messages with LOW weight pass.  This addresses your concern of "breaking
e-commerce".  If they want to make money, they better have their mail server
set up appropriately.

Any messages with HIGH weight, get held or deleted.  I have yet to hear a
complaint.

In the middle are a small percentage of medium weights that do fail a spam
test or two - but are possibly legitimate.  Those few messages currently get
a bounce message so that a false positive "victim" has a chance to
"intervene".  I have gotten zero complaints from people saying "hey, you
spammed me with your bounce message", but every so often I do get a thank
you from a "false positive" victim who, due to my bounce message, is able to
address THEIR problem.

It is those bounce messages, which in the future could come with a
"challenge/response" URL, containing the URL with the queue-ID as a
parameter to a web application that will release their message.  It's a
shame that we currently are forced to "manually" manage the false positives
when Declude could automate that process!

(Hm -  now that I'm saying this - I should just write a little web
application that copies the held D and Q file back to the spool and include
the parameterized URL in my bounce messages...  If I only had the time...)

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

H&M Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:    +1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/

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