> If   his   company  is  large  enough  to  have  several  dozens  of
> commissioned individuals taking upon themselves to become small-time
> spammers...

Then it's large enough for the admin not to have to do the executives'
dirty  work.  PrudentialRand  is  a  large  company.  A  contract- and
commission-based   business   sharing  a  single  superdomain  becomes
functionally  equivalent  in  content-scanning  terms to a centralized
business;  the  distributed  model,  even if it helps the bottom line,
falls  apart, and techies should not be responsible for picking up the
pieces  (unless,  of course, they're getting kickbacks from individual
contractors!).

> Now  if  I  was  the  guy  at  AOL that made the determination as to
> whether  or  not to remove Marc's domain from my blacklist, my first
> question  would  be,  "what  have you done to limit the abuse/spam?"
> This is why I recommended that he start there.

If  your  mail blasts are real estate listings, it's obvious that they
cannot  be  spaced  out over more than a couple of days at the most. I
don't  disagree  with  your  suggestion  in  general, but I doubt it's
applicable  to  this  kind of traffic (while it would be applicable to
annual   reports   or   other   mailings   with   larger  windows--and
unfortunately is applicable to lots of typical spam).

> As far as "We hate spam too" links on home pages go, they are highly 
> indicative of companies with poor control, a lack of best practices, or 
> even a front to fool E-mail administrators into not blacklisting them.  
> That would be a red flag in my book.

If  it's an actual working link with an well-worded mea culpa, I don't
see  it  as  an issue. There are lots of sites that do contract direct
marketing  and  have  such  links  on  their  websites; their ubiquity
doesn't  prove  that  it  has  any effect--good or bad--with blacklist
owners,  and  the links may provide actual use to consumers, for all I
know. When you're in trouble, you scramble. IMO, the only other choice
is  to  shut  down  completely.  And  this  is  quite  a  quandary for
PrudentialRand.

--Sandy


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