That sounds like a great idea, Jason. Do you think it will stand up to this
volume?

-d


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From: "Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 12:09 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Distributed Dictionary Attack


> Try running Black ICE on the server.  It does a pretty decent job of
> auto blocking dictionary attacks.  We have it set to close and block a
> connection after 6 invalid users from an ip in 30 seconds
>
> Jason
>
>
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Doherty
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 11:04 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Distributed Dictionary Attack
>
>
> The interesting thing about these messages is that the ones I've seen
> generally don't have multi-hop trails. They look like a zombie
> connecting directly to the mail server.
>
> The blocklists are great, but at that volume, I can't run Declude on the
> messages without killing the server.  So I seem to have two options,
> both of which I am using: block the IPs before the server, and issue
> invalid user errors.
>
> One othe thing i noticed this evening that points to a coordinated
> effort: There is very little duplication of the "to" addresses. The most
> commonly duplicated address was used only about 150 times in a sample of
> 275,000 attempts.
>
> This is a small domain, one of about 500 on my system, and it has maybe
> eight or nine mailboxes.
>
> Country sources include a lot of Korea and Taiwan, and I have actually
> blocked some very large blocks of IP addresses in those places based on
> the source IPs being well distributed. But there are a lot coming from
> Canada and the US, also. I've seen a lot of the usual suspects -
> Comcast, Road Runner, and Rogers.
>
> -Dave
>
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