I am against subtracting points from and email based on an exturnal test. We
only add weight unless we are counterweighting a known issue with valid
email.


Kevin Bilbee

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Landry
> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 1:47 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPFPASS (Junk)
>
>
> I have to agree with Matt.  I am starting to see quite a few spam messages
> from the same spammer that has now implemented SPF for the following three
> domains:
>
> yfdvdsmail.com
> freefamilydeals.com
> americanfamilydeals.com
>
> I primarily now use SPF for adding negative weight for SPF fails.
>
> Bill
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 12:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPFPASS (Junk)
>
>
> > So zombie spamers forge Habeas, and ROKSO spammers give themselves SPF
> > records.  Not a surprise.
> >
> > You can't stop them from doing this, so I might suggest not crediting
> > any points to those that pass.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
> >
> > Frederick Samarelli wrote:
> >
> >
> > This is the offending header.
> >
> >
> >
> > Received: from mail13.americanfamilydeals.com ([69.56.11.46])
> >
> >  by DNS2.tcbinc.net (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004031909522726515
> >
> >  for   <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > Fri, 19 Mar 2004 09:52:29 -0500
> >
> > Message-ID:
> >
> >
> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > als.com>
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> >
> > Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 08:52:30 -0600 (CST)
> >
> > From: "Point.com"
> >
> >  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > Reply-To: American Family Deals
> >
> >  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > To: Nancy Gladwell   <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > Subject: [~23]Cell Phone, Accessories & Shipping at NO Cost
> >
> > Mime-Version: 1.0
> >
> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
> >
> >  boundary="----=_Part_1277094_8887513.1079707950959"
> >
> > X-nb: zspttavsabivfviftpfnfnnn maifvvbmwpmfifmpa pmfwstssn
> >
> > X-RBL-Warning: NOLEGITCONTENT: No content unique to legitimate E-mail
> >
> > detected. [2-3-1800]
> >
> > X-RBL-Warning: SNIFFER: Message failed SNIFFER: 63. [2-6-3000]
> >
> > X-RBL-Warning: SPFPASS: SPF returned PASS for this E-mail. [2-17-8800]
> >
> > X-RBL-Warning: MAILPOLICE-BULK: This E-mail came from
> >
> > mxllvniqnx.americanfamilydeals.com, a potential spam source listed in
> >
> > MAILPOLICE-BULK. [2-26-d000]
> >
> > X-RBL-Warning: SBL-XBL:
> >
> > "http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL9613";
> > <http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL9613>  [2-33-10800]
> >
> > X-RBL-Warning: GIBBERISH: Message failed GIBBERISH test (line 426,
> > weight 3)
> >
> > [2-57-1c800]
> >
> > X-Declude-Sender:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > [69.56.11.46]
> >
> > X-Declude-Spoolname: D09300e8a005e2c5b.SMD
> >
> > X-RBL-Warning: Total weight: 23
> >
> > X-Note: Sent from:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > X-Note: Sent from Reverse DNS:  mail13.americanfamilydeals.com
> >
> > ([69.56.11.46]).
> >
> > X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by TCB [1.78i21] for virus.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------=_Part_1277094_8887513.1079707950959
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >
> >
> >
> > This message contains an HTML formatted message but your email client
> > does =
> >
> > not support the display of HTML. Please view this message in a different
> > ma=
> >
> > il client or forward this email to a web-based mail system.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------=_Part_1277094_8887513.1079707950959
> >
> > Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From: "R. Scott Perry"   <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > To:   <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 11:46 AM
> >
> > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPFPASS (Junk)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > What do we do when we find Junkmail passing the SPF Test.
> >
> >
> >
> > Is there a place to report it.
> >
> >
> >
> > It should be treated the same way as regular spam that you would report,
> >
> > but there is a big exception here:  you can almost certainly find
> > someone
> >
> > responsible that allowed the spam through.
> >
> >
> >
> > If you have the headers, feel free to post them here.
> >
> >
> >
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