SPF does not prevent SPAM, only spoofing - which in turn can reduce
spam. I don't even run the SPFPASS test because I think its quite
pointless. If I receive an SPFFAIL on the other hand I block the email
straight away - don't even bother weighting it. 

If a spammer adds SPF to their own domain, when you know its a spammers
domain you can blacklist it. That makes them easier to blacklist before
they go buy another domain. And you would only be blacklisting the
domain, not an ISP with many other innocent users.

-----Original Message-----
From: Colbeck, Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 March 2004 20:49
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPFPASS (Junk)


Makes perfect sense to me.  Everyone, including ROKSO spammers, can
benefit from implementing SPF defensively, resulting in a valid SPFPASS.
And *their* doing so dilutes the incentive for antispammers to reward
those who implement SPF defensively, which in turn dilutes SPF.
 
As noted in the last 2 weeks, current wisdom is to add points to those
senders that trigger a SPFFAIL, and that rewarding a SPFPASS or
SPFUNKNOWN will reveal no joy.
 
Andrew 8)
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 12:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPFPASS (Junk)


So zombie spamers forge Habeas, and ROKSO spammers give themselves SPF
records.  Not a surprise.

You can't stop them from doing this, so I might suggest not crediting
any points to those that pass.

Matt



Frederick Samarelli wrote:

This is the offending header.

Received: from mail13.americanfamilydeals.com ([69.56.11.46])
 by DNS2.tcbinc.net (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004031909522726515
 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 19 Mar 2004 09:52:29 -0500
Message-ID:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 08:52:30 -0600 (CST)
From: "Point.com"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: American Family Deals
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Nancy Gladwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [~23]Cell Phone, Accessories & Shipping at NO Cost
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
 boundary="----=_Part_1277094_8887513.1079707950959"
X-nb: zspttavsabivfviftpfnfnnn maifvvbmwpmfifmpa pmfwstssn
X-RBL-Warning: NOLEGITCONTENT: No content unique to legitimate E-mail
detected. [2-3-1800]
X-RBL-Warning: SNIFFER: Message failed SNIFFER: 63. [2-6-3000]
X-RBL-Warning: SPFPASS: SPF returned PASS for this E-mail. [2-17-8800]
X-RBL-Warning: MAILPOLICE-BULK: This E-mail came from
mxllvniqnx.americanfamilydeals.com, a potential spam source listed in
MAILPOLICE-BULK. [2-26-d000]
X-RBL-Warning: SBL-XBL:
"http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL9613"; [2-33-10800]
X-RBL-Warning: GIBBERISH: Message failed GIBBERISH test (line 426,
weight 3)
[2-57-1c800]
X-Declude-Sender:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[69.56.11.46]
X-Declude-Spoolname: D09300e8a005e2c5b.SMD
X-RBL-Warning: Total weight: 23
X-Note: Sent from:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Note: Sent from Reverse DNS:  mail13.americanfamilydeals.com
([69.56.11.46]).
X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by TCB [1.78i21] for virus.

------=_Part_1277094_8887513.1079707950959
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This message contains an HTML formatted message but your email client
does =
not support the display of HTML. Please view this message in a different
ma=
il client or forward this email to a web-based mail system.

------=_Part_1277094_8887513.1079707950959
Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "R. Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPFPASS (Junk)


  
What do we do when we find Junkmail passing the SPF Test.

Is there a place to report it.
      
It should be treated the same way as regular spam that you would report,
but there is a big exception here:  you can almost certainly find
someone
responsible that allowed the spam through.

If you have the headers, feel free to post them here.

                                                    -Scott
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