> Everything SpamChk 
> does can be done  with  SA  rules, AFAIK (not that those 
> rules have been precisely reproduced  as  yet).  

I swear we haven't tried to copy anything from the SA rules.
If there is something similar then because both their and our research has
identified the same "good" indicators.

Beginning our work we've found something interesting and tried it out on our
server. After two weeks we've had a lot of "false negatives" for this test
and found out that SA has added the same test to their official rules.

As I can understand spammers are investigating the well known and often
implemented SA and adapt their outgoing messages to slip trough the actual
rules. Especially negative points. 
I'm not sure about this but I wonder if spammers hasn't tried it already.


> None of this is any slur whatsoever on Markus and his 
> handiwork, which we  use  as  well.  Anyway,  SURBL will 
> probably get into Declude soon enough, per Scott.

SpamChk does already extract all links from the body. The next step would be
to implement some lookup feature - and that would be new for SpamChk.

So we've decided to remain in our primary area (content based tests) without
adding remote lookup functionality. There are other tests I've allready
identified as good indicators.

However I hope to see SURBL soon as an additional Declude test.

Markus


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