Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Mark vs Hold vs Delete

[Matt]

Sandy, I really hate taking things to a personal level, but I digress in this instance. First, if you read my original post, I used two examples to show how spam patterns can be very different based on the type of domain not knowing what sort of traffic Goran was seeing and how he might modify his approach.  If you want to focus on the second example as being inaccurate, obviously YMMV, however this is my experience and it's stayed true as I've added more domains.  Zombie spam is of course different because people don't "opt-in" to zombie spam and while it appears to not be gender or age biased based on who receives it, it is gender and age biased in terms of content because illegal products sold and illegal marketing is often performed, and pills and sex are highly targeted at the male demographic. Regarding your assertion about my experience...     http://www.informationweek.com/703/03sskno.htm Been there, done that :) Matt Sanford Whiteman wrote: Statistically speaking it's a very accurate generalization and I see little reason to ignore such things based on what might be more politically correct. Please show me the IT-industry-wide statistics that show that your profiled user is the _only_ notable recipient of spam (as this was the _only_ supposed profile you mentioned). I'm sure that our male-dominated financial clients that do business in South and Latin America, for one of many examples, would be delighted to find that their business connections _never_ use spam-friendly ISPs to send legitimate mail, including some governments. And our manufacturing clients, where men overwhelmingly set policy, would also be happy to find that their inability to give any weight to basic EHLO and PTR errors because their critical business partners are rampantly misconfigured would be pleasantly counterbalanced if they just replaced all of the 40+ female employees drawing in all that spam. And--I almost forgot!--the porn floods that testosterone-soaked trading desks and mailrooms mysteriously receive must be getting rerouted...better open a support ticket for that one. As a result of this women, and especially women over the age of 30 represent a disporportionally large number of the accounts that receive over 100 spams a day. Is it 30, or is it 40? Is it the age at which ageism is, federally recognized (the latter), or is that not actually sound? Does your figure actually hold up after controlling for class, age, race, gender, industry, job title, personal/business primary use, et al.? Can you possibly have a valid sample? I doubt it. You can classify this in many different ways and get many different answers. You can indeed. Seems you chose the one that was most juicy for a male-dominated space. Let me get this straight, you didn't like my association of a particular demographic with spam, but you feel that it is appropriate to then classify young men as what created the Internet bubble? No, I specifically said that they "blew hot air into the bubble." To attempt to say that young entrepreneurs were not the technical "idea men" behind the bubble is to rewrite history. I was there on the inside of eight or nine such nightmares and know so intimately. ...the young Internet entrepreneurs were just patsies in the game... ROFLOL. You might have prospered and lived to gloat about it, but you never worked in a dotcom, clearly (or not in more than one lucky exception). Hey, yeah, without the VCs and IBs, it couldn't have been what it was, but if you think that "kewl" and the accompanying upselling of utter non-implementable nonsense were the work of patsies, come on. It took two to tango. Whatever, everyone has their grudges. But targeting a distinctly disempowered demographic is infinitely more dangerous than laying into young, educated men. The last thing IT communities need is more sexism. --Sandy ------------------------------------ Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division of Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SpamAssassin plugs into Declude! http://www.mailmage.com/download/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/Release/ --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- ===================================================== MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro. http://www.mailpure.com/software/ =====================================================