Essentially the good folks at Enron and WorldComm brought us the Sarbanes-Oxley Act or SOX for short. Public companies have to keep a record of all communications, the details of this are vague but mostly apply to the money people and decision makers. Since we cant selectively catch that specific traffic we have to grab it all.

Basicly all mail must be archived including the attachments and all mail must be retrievable in a reasonable amount of time, thats about it.

We were considering stripping the attachments and storing them in a directory structure and storing the email text data in the sql database. Separate fields for the date, to, from, subject, the entire D file and the attachment names and their location.

We figure we can get decent compression and searchabiltiy with the text info but the biggest hurdle is the attachments and being a Title company we have alot of large attachments to deal with.


Rick Davidson
National Systems Manager
North American Title Group
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That's funny that you should ask. I just coded that one up in VBScript this last weekend. I even managed to decode base64 text attachments, remove quoted-printable encoding, and strip out all of the HTML code. If this is for archiving according to legal requirement, the attachments would probably be necessary however.

Sandy had some good recommendations on how to archive. Maybe if you shared your requirements with the list, someone would have some recommendations as to how to approach this a better way.

Matt



Rick Davidson wrote:

ok thanks Matt, we do have some programmers on staff here but I will sure conscript your help if we brick wall. Regardless of where it is stored its going to be a massive amount of data, my initial samplings show 1.5 to 2GB per day. Yikes!

You wouldnt happen to know how to parse mime types and remove attachments would you? :-)

Rick Davidson
National Systems Manager
North American Title Group
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That's going to be one massive database :) I've become quite the VBScripter as of late (if that's something to brag about), so let me know if you need any help.

Matt

Rick Davidson wrote:

Thanks Matt,
COPYFILE is working perfectly, now its just a matter of writing the program to parse and insert it into the SQL database.


Rick Davidson
National Systems Manager
North American Title Group
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Rick,

This information is in the Q* file. If you use the COPYFILE action, it will keep both the D* and the Q* file. The only issue is that the Declude headers are lost and each message is kept separately and not viewable without a special application like spamreview. IMO, this is appropriate for archiving due to legal requirement, but not for doing review.

If you want to handle this in a different way by just sending to a mailbox, you can use a WARN action with the %ALLRECIPS% variable which will contain the BCC addresses as well. For instance, you could do the following:

TESTNAME        WARN X-RECIPIENTS: <%ALLRECIPS%>

This of course exposes the BCC info to all that might view the headers.

Matt


Rick Davidson wrote:

I am looking at creating our own email archiving solution using sql, the main hurdle is how to handle and email sent to a user using BCC. Is there a way to use Declude to include that info in a recipient x-header?

If I send myself using only the BCC field the header contains only this

From: "Rick Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
Subject: test

I assume the BCC info is lost once the message hits the senders SMTP server correct?

Rick Davidson
National Systems Manager
North American Title Group
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