Correct I was talking about level upgrades. Version upgrades are available
to all who have current service agreements.

If you purchase a level upgrade then you are required to have a current
service agreement for the product you are upgrading. I believe that is what
is says on the Upgrade page on the web site.

-Barry

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Hmm... I think he was talking about level upgrades (Lite, Standard, Pro) not
being included...not the version upgrades which are included in SAs.

But my question was on receiving an SA with the purchase of an upgrade.

So, if we purchase a level upgrade, do we get the current version, or are we
stuck with the version that was available when our SA ran out?

Darin.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Don Schreiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 11:48 AM
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Barry,

I hate to disagree with you!  See below email. I am also working on
finding in my archive another email between Scott and self clarifying
Service Agreements this same topic.

-Don

-----Original Message-----
From: R. Scott Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 2:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Declude Service Agreement

Thank you for your order for a Service Agreement.

This E-mail confirms the purchase of your 1 Year Service Agreement,
which
will be good through January 31, 2004.

The Service Agreement entitles you to free upgrades and support during
the
term of the service agreement.  The Service Agreement covers all Declude

programs that you have purchased in the past.  You do not need a new
activation code; your current activation code will continue to work.

Please note that we now have a special E-mail address for urgent support

issues ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).  Standard support questions can be sent to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

If you have any questions, please let me know.  Thanks.
                                 -Scott

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 11:10 AM
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Explanation of Service Agreements

1. Service Agreements have always been "Per Server", that is to say that
if
you own JunkMail on Two Servers then you should have paid two service
agreements. In the past this would have cost you $295 * 2 - $590. Today
it
will be $132 * 2 = $264. A significant saving.

2. The rules on upgrades have always been that an upgrade between
product
levels e.g. Lite to Standard, does NOT include any extension in Service
Agreement.

Both these rules have been set by Scott years ago.

- Barry

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Schreiner
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 10:58 AM
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That is how I recall it too, but not sure based on the sites verbiage.
We
have license for Declude Pro AV/JM on one server and separate license
for
Declude Standard AV/JM at another server/location. Does the $264 JM/AV
Service Agreement option cover both these licenses as in the past?

-Don

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 10:34 AM
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Sounds like some good changes.

How does upgrading one or more products affect service agreements?  For
example, if we have JM and AV standard, and upgrade one to Pro, what
service

agreement would we end up with?

I believe in the old model, upgrading one would effectively result in a
year

support for both, but I may be incorrect.

Darin.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Barry Simpson
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 10:10 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Email being released today - Advance Notice




This is a preview of an email being shortly released by Declude and
being
sent to all customers.

________________________________________________________________________
____
_____________



"We recently promised you information about our plans as and when it
became
available. Here are two pieces of news:



A Beta release of Declude 2.0 will be available on or around December
16th
that will include new functionality and also support for an additional
windows based mail server as an affordable alternative to IMail. This
opens
up the options for a reasonably priced, fully functional gateway.



In order to provide more equitable pricing on Service Agreements we will

introduce a new mechanism which will be available immediately. There
will be

server/product based support agreements rather than a blanket cost which

penalizes the smaller user. Please visit our Service Agreements page to
see
more details.



On a less positive note we have been monitoring downloads and
activations of

Declude software and have discovered that there are a significant number
of
non licensed copies being used. These include customers downloading the
latest release without a valid Service Agreement and others who have
installed multiple copies of unlicensed software. We encourage all
customers

who are participating in these activities to regularize their legal
position

by December 31st, 2004. If you have any questions as to the validity of
your

installation please email us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call us at (866)
332-5833 between 8.00 am and 5 pm Eastern Time, Monday thru Friday."

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