Re: [Declude.JunkMail] large mail to large number op recips

[Matt]

Bonno, There are two _vbscript_ examples on my site:     http://www.mailpure.com/software/decludefilters/beta/ "Size" would be a good place to start, but you can also get hints at how to do some other things with the "BlankSubject" script.  Those are the only two in _vbscript_. You would configure the script in your Global.cfg like so: BIGBCC    external  10 "CScript C:\IMail\Declude\Filters\BigBCC.vbs //B //NoLogo //T:30  RE=%RECIPIENTS%"   0  0 That will pass in all the recipients as an argument to the script, and you can then parse them out fairly easily.  Declude automatically inserts the D* file location as the last argument.  It will also pass in the message size, but that is easy to find and some code for that is in the "Size" script.  I would imagine that you would want to prevent anything over a certain size from being sent to more than a certain number of recipients. Pay careful attention to the caveats.  You likely have your own users whitelisted in Declude using WHITELIST AUTH.  This will cause actions on this test to not be applied, and you also don't want to remove it.  The best way to handle these circumstances is to delete or move the D* file when the script finds an issue, and let Declude just error, or maybe trim the D* message size to just 32 KB or something like that.  You also should make sure that PREWHITELIST OFF is set in your config.  While this will presently work with PREWHITELIST ON, if they fix that, it will suddenly stop working since that is a bug.  Since you aren't using Declude for scoring the message or any message actions, you would want to make sure to exit the script with WScript.Quit(0). You might have your programmer join the list and ask for pointers when they need some direction.  There are a few of us around here that have done _vbscript_ plug-ins for Declude, and it can be confusing if you don't fully understand what is going on, yet very powerful if you can figure it out. Matt Bonno Bloksma wrote: Hi,   I can not do it, I'm not that good with _vbscript_ but we have people who can do it.   How would I attach this script to the mail IMail/Declude chain. Use the undocumented DAISYCHAIN option in Declude? If so, what is the correct keyword ans in which file do I put it? Met vriendelijke groet, Bonno Bloksma hoofd systeembeheer tio hogeschool hotelmanagement en toerisme begijnenhof 8-12 / 5611 el eindhoven t 040 296 28 28 / f 040 237 35 20 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  / www.tio.nl ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] large mail to large number op recips You can write it in _vbscript_ and pass the recipients into the script with the argument %RECIPIENTS% Once you have the number of recipients (found by counting the @ symbols in that argument), you can then get the message size and do some multiplication. Here's one big issue though.  If you whitelist your own users, as most of us do, this filter won't work, or at least it shouldn't work.  There is a bug though introduced in 2.x that causes all tests to run despite the sender being whitelisted, but it will cause messages to still score 0 (just wastes resources).  Therefore you might try just deleting or moving the message file with the script instead of filtering it with Declude. Matt Darin Cox wrote: Certainly not for all mail, just for these circumstances... but I understand you want to avoid situations where this is done accidentally.   I think a couple of people had a size test, and you could key off of the number of recipients in combination with this to perform a custom action like routing or deleting... or route it to a program alias that sends you an alert notification. Darin.     ----- Original Message ----- From: Bonno Bloksma To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] large mail to large number op recips Hi,   Nope, we don't want to go that way for ALL mail. We''ve got several options to upload files for several purpouses within our school. Our website has lot's of option for that but...... sometimes we want to send something as an attachment. In this case it was a newsletter for our staf which was supposed to be about 200-300 KB, we want those newsletters sent as attachment, not as a link.   For some reason the newsletter ended up to be a Word document 5MB large and was sent without realising it. After that it was sent once more. This time as a PDF file....... which happened to be 33MB large and was created using the Word document as a base. :-( Both mails went to 250+ recipients. The first mail did not kill the mailserver, the second did. :-(   For exceptions like these I want to have a tool to catch them before it fills up the server. Met vriendelijke groet, Bonno Bloksma hoofd systeembeheer tio hogeschool hotelmanagement en toerisme begijnenhof 8-12 / 5611 el eindhoven t 040 296 28 28 / f 040 237 35 20 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  / www.tio.nl ----- Original Message ----- From: Darin Cox To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] large mail to large number op recips How about implementing a web-based upload/download site for this.  I've done this for a couple of graphic design firms to allow their customers to upload files, which then sends the intended recipient an email notification with a link to download.   Much, much more efficient than SMTP (mail encoding generally runs up the file size about 33% or so), faster, and much less network traffic in a distribution situation since many of the recipients will not download the file.   Also doesn't hang the user's mailbox when sending/receiving for several minutes while uploading/downloading. Darin.     ----- Original Message ----- From: Bonno Bloksma To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 8:51 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] large mail to large number op recips Hi,   We are a school and: -  sometimes someone needs to send a large e-mail (20-30 MB) to one of the staf or students. - several times a day we send e-mails to large groups of students so the BCC field might contain up to 1500 addresses.   Both items are no problem until they are combined like some tried today. :-( Suddenly I lost around 15GB of diskspace on my mailserver. At least that is what IMail tried because I only had about 10GB left on my mailbox drive. Guess what happened?   Is there a way using Declude Junkmail to flag this situation and stopping the e-mail while still allowing the two items above? I'm currently using Declude 2.16, Junkmail Std and AV Pro.   Met vriendelijke groet, Bonno Bloksma hoofd systeembeheer tio hogeschool hotelmanagement en toerisme begijnenhof 8-12 / 5611 el eindhoven t 040 296 28 28 / f 040 237 35 20 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  / www.tio.nl