I quite possibly is the issue. It has to do with response times. 

John T
eServices For You

"Seek, and ye shall find!"


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:56 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ip4r failure
> 
> That may speed up resolution, but that's not my issue.  The question is
why does
> SmarterMail catch the spam using the same ip4r tests?  It is the same
message, and
> the tests are being perfomed on the same eml file within a few seconds of
each other.
> Why does Declude fail and SM succeed?
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
>  -------- Original Message --------
> > From: "John T \(Lists\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 1:22 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ip4r failure
> >
> > Although others opinions may vary, you are better off using a cache only
DNS
> > server in-house for you mail server resolution. I do this on the Imail
> > server itself. Speeds up resolution.
> >
> > John T
> > eServices For You
> >
> > "Seek, and ye shall find!"
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:05 AM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ip4r failure
> > >
> > > How do I find that out?  It is just an address that my hosting
provider
> > has given me.
> > > I have no control over or way to access the DNS server.
> > >
> > > Gary
> > >
> > >
> > >  -------- Original Message --------
> > > > From: "John T \(Lists\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 2:40 AM
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ip4r failure
> > > >
> > > > What is the OS of the DNS server being used?
> > > >
> > > > John T
> > > > eServices For You
> > > >
> > > > "Seek, and ye shall find!"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 7:27 PM
> > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] ip4r failure
> > > > >
> > > > > I've been having this problem with Declude going back to August
and my
> > > > installation
> > > > > of 2.0.6.  I'm currently running 3.0.6.4 with SmarterMail 2.6.  It
> > seems
> > > > that
> > > > > irregularly Declude's ip4r tests time out, but SmarterMail
redundantly
> > > > running the
> > > > > same tests has no trouble picking up the spam.  I have SM and
Declude
> > both
> > > > testing
> > > > > SPAMCOP, DSBL, CBL, Spamhaus SBL, and Basura.  What will happen is
a
> > spam
> > > > will
> > > > > get through Declude, but get caught by SM using the same tests.
For
> > > > example,
> > > > > following is from the header of a recent message:
> > > > >
> > > > > X-RBL-Warning: NOLEGITCONTENT: No content unique to legitimate
E-mail
> > > > detected.
> > > > > X-RBL-Warning: IPNOTINMX:
> > > > > X-RBL-Warning: DYNHELO: Dynamic HELO found.
> > > > > X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [69.205.200.200]
> > > > > X-Declude-Spoolname: 45172055.eml
> > > > > X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 3.0.6.4
> > > > (http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm)
> > > > > for spam.
> > > > > X-Declude-Scan: Score [7] at 21:24:19 on 14 Mar 2006
> > > > > X-Declude-Tests: NOLEGITCONTENT, IPNOTINMX, DYNHELO
> > > > > X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES->destination
> > > > > X-SmarterMail-Spam: BAYESIAN FILTERING, CBL, SPAMCOP
> > > > >
> > > > > I went over this several times with Declude support, and the best
they
> > > > were able to
> > > > > come up with is for me to add "WINSOCKCLEANUP ON" to my
declude.cfg,
> > which
> > > > > changed nothing.  Using the DNS statement in the global.cfg also
> > produced
> > > > no effect.
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe now that Declude and SmarterTools have such a close
> > relationship,
> > > > Declude
> > > > > can ask SmarterTools how their ip4r tests work.  Especially since
> > Declude
> > > > is supposed
> > > > > to be using the DNS server information as set within SmarterMail.
> > > > >
> > > > > Has anyone else experienced this problem?  I'm sure the next thing
I
> > will
> > > > hear is that
> > > > > this problem will go away if I upgrade to SM 3.0 and Declude 4.0.
> > > > >
> > > > > TIA,
> > > > >
> > > > > Gary
> > > > >
> 
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