RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Which way to upgrade - SmarterMail or IMail

[Goran Jovanovic]

Matt,   I was reading just a little while ago that if you do the port redirection then some things like webmail might not work correctly. Even though I host just a few domains I do not want the hassle of figuring out a broken submission to port 25 when it is listening on 2525. So I will upgrade to either IMail 8.2x or SM 3.3 so I will not have that problem.   I have no where near enough volume to justify two boxes for email at this point so splitting the functionality is not going to happen right now.   I do have a leaning to IMail due to familiarity but it costs somewhat more than SM. If all I was doing was gatewaying I would look at the SM free version as it can gateway unlimited domains/users while only hosting 1 domain with 10 users.   I think I may install  the free version of SM and test it out by running a few domains through it and then I can see how it is going to perform for me.   Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions     From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 6:55 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Which way to upgrade - SmarterMail or IMail   Goran, You can do port redirection with most routers on the market, which would alleviate the need to upgrade any software.  I had done this for over two years up until recently in fact.  There is also software that can do port redirection.  I have even seen Windows Firewall do this, though I would be more comfortable using a router than software on that box. I would not be scared of upgrading to IMail 8.22.  I did this recently and the conversion was pretty much flawless, and the services have been perfectly stable for me.  I however only host my MailPure accounts on that server, and otherwise use it for spam capture accounts, but that's it.  All of my hosted E-mail is on a separate SmarterMail box. If you hosted your E-mail on a separate box, you could certainly configure both the gateway and IMail on different ports so long as the gateway is on port 25 and you don't have any users connecting to the server that aren't configured for the special port that you put IMail on.  This is exactly what I am doing now. I would not necessarily discourage the use of Declude with SmarterMail when one is only hosting accounts on such a server, but for doing a gateway service I still strongly believe that IMail is best.  The reason for this is because IMail uses ASCII formats for all of the associated files, and SmarterMail uses some funky Microsoft format that combines binary and ASCII data into one file, and it is impossible to manually modify some of these files for some things.  The fact that IMail keeps true to standard formats that are fully text readable and editable can be a bonus for a gateway service.  The logging is also better with IMail as well, and IMail is more mature in several ways that I find to be important.  SmarterMail has some nifty features, but I find that their execution of such things to be lacking somewhat, though certainly not totally, and most of the issues are in how things are configured and the access that end-users have over things.  SmarterMail does perform very well and is stable, but I honestly wished I still used IMail for my hosted E-mail now that IMail has improved their webmail interface. So I would recommend that you either do port redirection with a router, or upgrade to 8.22 or higher, or move the hosted E-mail to a separate box and leave the spam and virus blocking on a dedicated server along with the gateway where the IMail port wouldn't matter.  I would not move Declude off of IMail for a gateway service installation. Matt Goran Jovanovic wrote: Hi All,   I am currently running IMail 8.15 HF2 and Declude 4.1.0. I got new server hardware so it is time to do it all over again. I want to incorporate an address validation gateway on the same box as my Declude system. I gateway pretty much all of my traffic and host very few domains (on the same box). Since I want all this to happen on one box I need to have two IPs both of which listen on port 25, I do not want the Declude portion to be listening on a different port.   So I would either need to upgrade to IMail 8.2x since it can listen on only one IP or move to SmarterMail 3.3 as it can do the same thing. Having run IMail for a while I am obviously familiar with the product and have scripts etc that have been created for it. Having said that I am not committed to IMail.   I have seen the recent thread about the thousands of messages in the declude error folder with SmarterMail.   What are people having luck with?   Any comments would be appreciated.   Thanks   Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". 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