Agreed, it's all very vague at this point. Regardless it is probably bad news for the Open Source movement and for small developers. Part of Open Source is being able to recompile your applications as often as you want and each version will be slightly different so they won't be authorised applications. That is OK so long as you can turn off Palladium on your machine but frankly I wouldn't trust Microsoft too much on this front - apparently you can turn off Passport/Messenger in Windows XP but they sure don't make it easy.
The problem for developers like us is similar. We release different versions of our executables all the time. We don't want to have to contact some US company and pay several thousand dollars each time to have our latest executable certified - just to have the whole process repeated 2 weeks later when we fix another few bugs. Which means we would have to have our clients turn Palladium off and I can imagine bigger corporate clients who have bought into Microsoft's hype machine refusing to do that... Food for thought eh? Thankfully I think even Microsoft will have trouble ramming this one down everyone's throats. David. > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Conor Boyd > Sent: Monday, 12 August 2002 11:31 a.m. > To: Multiple recipients of list delphi > Subject: RE: [DUG]: Palladium - a concern for developers? > > > Yeah, > > Afraid I don't see where it reads that Bill says he's controlling > it either: > > "...Anyone can certify "Palladium" hardware or software, and it > is expected > that many companies and organizations will offer this service. Allowing > multiple parties to independently evaluate and certify "Palladium"-capable > systems means that users will be able to obtain verification of > the system's > operation from organizations that they trust." > > It's all a bit vague at this stage, worth keeping an eye on... > > Cheers, > > Conor > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Steve, > Just had a quick read over it and I don't know where you get > the idea from > about Bill choosing what consumers can and can't run on their > machines. The > article specifically states that the end user can choose to turn off > Palladium if they want and the OS will run like normal. > > I personally think it is a great idea in concept expecially for server > machines in which you want everything to be as secure as possible and you > only have a limited number of applications that you actually run (IIS, SQL > Server). Using Palladium you could ensure that the applications you are > using are fully secure and certified. > > I think that microsoft will give the responsibility for certifying > hardware and software as "palladium" to 3rd party dealers, much like they > have (or are going to) do with Microsoft passport. > > I think you are taking it to extremes with your Microsoft paranoia, but > let the debating begin.... :) > > Cheers, > Andrew > > Disclaimer: I didn't read the whole article so I could have completely > mis-understood the point of Palladium so please forigve me if that is the > case. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Steve Peacocke > > Take a look at > > http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2002/jul02/0724palladiumwp.asp > > Our dear, dear friend Billy-boy may have come up with a winner > for him and a > loser for everyone else (again?). This feature in future Windows > version can > have the effect of shutting out all applications that Billy does not want. > > This means that if Billy wants a particular market then he can refuse a > particular application ability to run. However, his will. Much > cheaper than > his cost of destroying Netscape. > > How can it effect you and I? > > Well if Billy wants, he can charge you and I a sum of money to have our > programs acceptable for running on Windows. All in the name of National > Security and personal rights and Mother and Apple Pie of course. > > What are your thoughts? > > Steve > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > --------- > New Zealand Delphi Users group - Delphi List - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Website: http://www.delphi.org.nz > To UnSub, send email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with body of "unsubscribe delphi" > Web Archive at: http://www.mail-archive.com/delphi%40delphi.org.nz/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- New Zealand Delphi Users group - Delphi List - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.delphi.org.nz To UnSub, send email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body of "unsubscribe delphi" Web Archive at: http://www.mail-archive.com/delphi%40delphi.org.nz/
