I thought that embaco got a bargain on purchase Delphi from Borland. Will they 
make Delphi cheaper?

From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On 
Behalf Of Steve Peacocke
Sent: Wednesday, 16 September 2009 1:03 p.m.
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: Re: [DUG] A change in upgrade policy coming from Embarcadero

Agreed. Borland went away from its core competency to enter into a market it 
was ill prepared for. It tried to recoup some of the costs and losses by upping 
the cost of the core developer's tool (Delphi) until it cost the value greater 
than the cost of a good second hand car.

It's total focus away from the developer and it's huge cost of delphi meant 
that most NZ companies went away from Delphi to another tool that offered more, 
easier and cheaper upgrades. Boreland effectively killed the cash-cow through 
over-excessive milking.

Thankfully they are looking good to recover slightly, although regaining the 
customer base they had previously is probably now out of their range.

Steve Peacocke

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Kyley Harris 
<ky...@harrissoftware.com<mailto:ky...@harrissoftware.com>> wrote:
"Really one reason Borland went broke is that they made an IDE that could be
used forever.."

No.. they went broke spending tons of money buying 3rd party tools and trying 
to sell them for a fortune to recoup the buy cost.. at the same time they damn 
near abandoned the concept of putting out and supporting the Core Development 
tools and focused on buggy integration tools with all the extras they 
purchased..

They were doing great as a company for Programmers.. Tried to become a company 
for lifecycle development and stuffed up.

Still.. with Delphi 2007 I've been quite happy.

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:44 PM, John Bird 
<johnkb...@paradise.net.nz<mailto:johnkb...@paradise.net.nz>> wrote:
I think in general the upgrade policy has been quite generous, as others say
other companies are much worse.

Take Microsoft -  As a Vista user of 1 year I get no reduced price upgrade
to Windows 7.  Vista is V6.0, Windows 7 internally is ictually Windows 6.1
and could be argued is not even a new version at all - they are as similar
as Windows 2000 (V5.0) and Windows XP (V5.1) were.

D2007 versus 7 - have to say the D2007 use of IDE screen is a lot better for
a single screen on a laptop.  And like others I have the D7 help loaded -
actually the D2007 help is not so bad, just slow at times.

Really one reason Borland went broke is that they made an IDE that could be
used forever..

John


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