2009/9/16 Jolyon Smith <jsm...@deltics.co.nz> > > > I may be wrong, but I think Paul was more concerned about a stated > intention made to him by Dev-Inc to take a matter up with Borland on his > behalf and then a complete lack of any sort of feedback from Dev-Inc until > what seemed to him to be a condescending comment about his current > situation. >
Dev Inc has never had a business relationship with Borland per-say. CodeGear when they were part of Borland, but Dev Inc never sold "Borland" products. I am unsure as to where this ostensible stated intention came from. I won't deny it ever happened, but it has not happened in my memory and may have been with another member of Dev Inc. Accusing me of a smirking comment was rude. > > > But as for that $500-$600 price you quote ... That’s a little disingenuous > don’t you think? Current pricing for Delphi 2010 Pro (Named User) is * > $750* incl GST. Or were you making an offer of a discount for DUG > subscribers? J > No I don't think it is. D2007 was just over $500 for an upgrade, D2009 was a bit more (and fluctuates with pricing), D2010 is $665+GST. Quoting GST inclusive prices of a business product is disingenuous I think, so I don't do it. > > > Remember that many community users are not GST registered. In many cases > we may work for companies that are, but when maintaining our *own*licenses we > have to pay the full asking price and often we don’t have > customers from whom to recoup the cost. > Ohhhh - I actually know the stats, and a very small number of Delphi licenses are sold to individuals. The reverse to what you are stating is actually true. The fact that most people who have a work license also install it at home if they want to means very few people buy it personally. > > I’d also point out that the recent Delphi versions offer themselves up – or > are offered up by CodeGear or others - for comparison with Visual Studio, in > which endeavour they fail in one key respect... the lack of an entirely FREE > edition. (There isn’t even an entry level SKU comparable to “Standard” > edition Visual Studio) > > > > I’d like to prefix “current” to that word “lack”, but have no reason to do > so at the moment. > In my opinion (I don't speak for Embarcadero *ever*) Microsoft isn't a tools company, it is a platform company. Visual Studio makes sense to position yourself against simply so managers understand what they are buying. -- --- Richard Vowles, Technical Advisor Developers Inc Ltd web. http://www.developers-inc.co.nz ph. +64-9-3600231, mob. +64-275-467747, fax. +64-9-3600384 skype. rvowles, LinkedIn, Twitter
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