My brother was in Vietnam just recently. $150 for one and its Jailbroken or whatever. My sister has a real one, and honestly, you cant find the diff. They are from the same factory so its to be excpected. I would suggest a return flight to Vietnam ($1300-$1400) a few nights accomodations and a phone, is still going to be cheaper than a Vodafone deal, AND you get a holiday :-)
Jeremy On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Jolyon Smith <jsm...@deltics.co.nz> wrote: > Many people would say that the $2000 you pay for that internet and phone > service is way more than those services should cost. “Worth” is a highly > subjective measure. ;) > > > > Free cheese is only ever found in mousetraps. > > > > > > *From:* delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] > *On Behalf Of *Kyley Harris > *Sent:* Monday, 18 January 2010 10:07 a.m. > > *To:* NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List > *Subject:* Re: [DUG] Google Phone > > > > >>Vodafone offer the HTC handset for as little as "FREE". "Free" in this > case > >>means signing up for 24 months at $80/mth, so that's $2000 (give or take) > in > >>real money, albeit on an installment plan. > > $2000 if you ignore the $2000 worth of internet and phone service which > still costs $2000 even if you dont get the phone. so, I'd take that as an > opportunity cost at worst if you didn't need a phone plan. But then what > point is a phone without the plan to test it on. > > > > My father has the google phone, I have the 3g iphone. In almost all ways I > can imagine the iphone leaves it for dead. Vodafone is providing a cut back > OS with limited features that sucks. In trying to upgrade to one of the open > versions of the OS he keeps stuffing his phone up. > > > > I've bought many Apps for the new iphone and never paid more than $8 for > products of excellent quality including some very cool games that would cost > $60+ on a PSP. > > > > I'd also say that Google Maps on the iPhone works better than google maps > on the Google phone.. (Better interface) > > > > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Jolyon Smith <jsm...@deltics.co.nz> > wrote: > > That all depends what you mean by "reasonable". > > Vodafone offer the HTC handset for as little as "FREE". "Free" in this > case > means signing up for 24 months at $80/mth, so that's $2000 (give or take) > in > real money, albeit on an installment plan. > > A handset only deal will set you back $750. > > I was nearly tempted by the "installment plan" but fortunately (for me) the > Vodafone rep was able to demonstrate the device as she herself had one. As > a result I quickly changed my mind. The on-screen keyboard (it has no > physical keyboard at all) was just too small for my fingers and didn't have > cursor keys that I (or she) could find. > > So, e.g. when entering a txt message, if you make a mistake the only way to > position the cursor on the offending text is to try to hit exactly the > right > spot in the txt with your finger (or backspace ALL text back to it) .. you > can't simply cursor back over/thru the txt!!! > > And unless you have a child's fingers and prod the letter out *real* > carefully (i.e. slowly), you will make mistakes with the tiny virtual > keyboard. Guaranteed. > > There is no stylus. > > > "Way cool" doesn't outweigh simple practicality in my book. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] > On > Behalf Of Leigh Wanstead > Sent: Monday, 18 January 2010 9:40 a.m. > To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List > Subject: Re: [DUG] What is the future for Delphi programmer? > > May I ask how to get one Google phone reasonably priced in New Zealand? > > -----Original Message----- > From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] > On > Behalf Of Colin Fraser > Sent: Friday, 15 January 2010 5:00 p.m. > To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List > Subject: Re: [DUG] What is the future for Delphi programmer? > > > > >> But Google's phone just begin entering into the market. > > The 'Google Phone' has been around for quite a while now (I have had one > for > about a year... has not really been pushed in New Zealand)... Android is > the > Google OS, and quite a few companies make 'Google' or Android phones, eg, > HTC (made the first released one, and also make the latest that Google is > now selling directly), Samsung, Motorola and others I can't recall also > make > and sell them. > > The media hype seemed to peek because Google is selling the latest (running > Android 2.1 I think) directly... not sure why the hype, but I am sure it is > good for the phone and for Google... > > In terms of Development, Android is Java based (mainly), and comes with a > few plugins for Eclipse to make things more easy... all free. > > iPhone has an XCode development environment, not to familiar with it... > > Regards > Colin > > > The latest news is that Google are actually selling one now, > > On 15/01/2010, at 4:31 PM, Leigh Wanstead wrote: > > > May I ask what is the future between apple's iphone or Google's phone? > > > > I saw that Google phone got Linux behind and no rip off fee from Apple > which is great. But Google's phone just begin entering into the market. > > > > Have a nice day > > > > Regards > > Leigh > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] > On Behalf Of Jeremy North > > Sent: Friday, 15 January 2010 4:09 p.m. > > To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List > > Subject: Re: [DUG] What is the future for Delphi programmer? > > > > Pro upgrade is $519 (AUD) for Delphi 2010. > > > > Just because something is "free" doesn't make it a good "investment". > > > > The apple tools are way behind other IDE's for usability and > functionality. > > > > I suggest you download them and try them for yourself. > > > > Oh, you'll need apple hardware as well to do that ;-) > > > > I'm not a fan of OSX - it feels like I'm being forced to use a > > computer with one arm tied behind my back and continually trying to > > swat flies and work with the free arm... > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Jolyon Smith <jsm...@deltics.co.nz> > wrote: > >>> You can't deploy to the iPhone platform unless you pay. > >> > >> $99 / $299 > >> > >> If there were a version of Delphi at those price points I would be very > >> happy. > >> > >> :) > >> > >> And unless I'm mistaken, those costs apply no matter whose tools you are > >> using to create the software. > >> > >> $2000+ for Embarcadero Delphi 20XX for iPhone may even include that $99 > >> cost, but it's still $2000+ vs $99 and free tools. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list > >> Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz > >> Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi > >> Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with > Subject: > unsubscribe > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list > > Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz > > Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi > > Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: > unsubscribe > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list > > Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz > > Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi > > Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: > unsubscribe > > > ############################################################################ > ######### > > Attention: > > The information in this email and in any attachments is confidential. 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