I see where you are coming from. But this isn't just a programmer issue. I remember working for a company in Auckland where I was expected to turn up for work at 7am every day and anyone who left the office before 5:30 was "suspect". I was regularly sent to Sydney where I had to be at the airport at 4am for a 7am flight (in those days where 3 hour checkins were required). Spend the entire day in an office or taxi in Sydney, then fly home (never ever put up for the night) where I wouod finally walk into my apartment just after midnight. I was still expected to give a debriefing to everyone at 7am.
Yes, that was salary, no overtime, no bonuses, not even a Christmas gift, just salary - and although I had a training budget, I was never allowed to be away from work to attend any training. Training had to be done in my own time, but as I was regularly working through weekends for a customer presentation on Monday, I didn't have any of that stuff. Steve On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Cameron Hart < [email protected]> wrote: > Salary is “salary” is purely an employers’ perspective – for an employee > a 80k salary for a job where you end up working 60 hour weeks is worse than > a 60k salary working 40hours. as the salary goes up so too does the > responsibilities and expectations. consequently the average “on paper” > salary is 80k-ish but the “real” salary measured by the return against the > effort is a lot less. most people don’t just turn off at 5pm and at the > least the back of the brain is still churning over the latest issue – have > you never woken up with the brilliant fix for an issue you have pondered > for a long time?**** > > ** ** > > *Cameron Hart ***** > > *Flow Software Limited ***** > > **** > > [image: Flow]**** > > PO Box 302 768, North Harbour **** > > *P ***** > > +64 9 476 3569 x910 **** > > Auckland 0751, New Zealand **** > > *M ***** > > +64 21 222 3569 **** > > www.flowsoftware.co.nz **** > > *E ***** > > [email protected] **** > > **** > > This message is intended for the addressee named above. It may contain > privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended > recipient of this message you must not use, copy, distribute or disclose it > to anyone. **** > > P Please consider the environment before printing this email **** > > **** > > ** ** > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Steve Peacocke > *Sent:* Wednesday, 31 July 2013 10:59 a.m. > > *To:* NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List > *Subject:* Re: [DUG] Average Salary**** > > ** ** > > Salary is "salary", not hourly rate :) > **** > > > Steve **** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Cameron Hart < > [email protected]> wrote:**** > > do you want the average “on paper” salary who the “real” salary taking > into account the actual hours worked? J**** > > **** > > *Cameron Hart ***** > > *Flow Software Limited ***** > > **** > > [image: Flow]**** > > PO Box 302 768, North Harbour **** > > *P ***** > > +64 9 476 3569 x910 **** > > Auckland 0751, New Zealand **** > > *M ***** > > +64 21 222 3569 **** > > www.flowsoftware.co.nz **** > > *E ***** > > [email protected] **** > > **** > > This message is intended for the addressee named above. It may contain > privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended > recipient of this message you must not use, copy, distribute or disclose it > to anyone. **** > > P Please consider the environment before printing this email **** > > **** > > **** > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Steve Peacocke > *Sent:* Wednesday, 31 July 2013 8:40 a.m. > *To:* NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List > *Subject:* [DUG] Average Salary**** > > **** > > Hi Everyone,**** > > **** > > I was just wondering, what is the average salary for a permanent Delphi > developer out there in the marketplace these days? > **** > > > Steve Peacocke > Mobile: +64 220 612-611**** > > Linkedin Professional > Profile<http://nz.linkedin.com/pub/steve-peacocke/1/a06/489> > **** > > > _______________________________________________ > NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list > Post: [email protected] > Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi > Unsubscribe: send an email to [email protected] with > Subject: unsubscribe**** > > ** ** > > _______________________________________________ > NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list > Post: [email protected] > Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi > Unsubscribe: send an email to [email protected] with > Subject: unsubscribe >
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