You are both presuming that all Borland is is IDEs. Which quite clearly it isn't - we have Caliber for Requirements Management (what do you use for yours? Nothing? Word? 52-56% of product defects arise because of requirements defects), StarTeam for management (defect tracking, version control, task integration with MS Project and others), Together (for Java (Jbuilder & Eclipse) and .NET (Visual Studio)) for modeling, OptimizeIt (including the Suite, Enterprise Suite and ServerTrace), BES/AppServer, BES/Visibroker (the most embedded CORBA in the world, we sold a truckload of that last year) and InterBase and JDataStore.
Borland still quite clearly considers the IDEs important, with C++BuilderX (whose next version is looking very cool), C#Builder, Delphi and JBuilderX. All of the above tools are integrated into our product lines and into Eclipse and Visual Studio as well (give or take some variations) and having got back from the Sales Conference I have heard of others as well. Wall Street predicts our revenue will grow within the next year, if 50% of the _active_ Delphi developers (those we know of from the BDN) take to .NET there will be more Delphi .NET developers than C# Developers (Microsoft says there are only 400k C# Developers), Borland and Microsoft are cosy, and finally, remember that quite a few analysts said we wouldn't see in the new millennium - and we are stronger than we have been since the heydays of Borland Office and Paradox. Borland now competes in the same space as Rational, and we have _way_ better products! Richard -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Sugrue Sent: Friday, 23 January 2004 1:09 p.m. To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List' Subject: RE: [DUG] [OFF-TOPIC] Delphi 8 and .net Now it is really just a language choice for .NET, and unless you own Enterprise or Architect the RAD side of things has been depleted too. Having said that, I'll continue to use Delphi as long as it is being sold. I can afford to though as I run my own company and can choose the tools I use to some extent. If I was just starting out or was a wage bum, I would definitely be learning C# before Delphi... -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neven MacEwan Sent: Friday, 23 January 2004 12:26 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List Subject: Re: [DUG] [OFF-TOPIC] Delphi 8 and .net I'd predict that within 5 years Borland, Seagate Software (Crystal Decisions) and Symantec will be shadows of their former selves. Borland will hang on as a developer of Java Development Products but I'd expect Delphi to be finished. Crystal is a definate target and as a basically single product company is definately at risk. The other 2 I'd look for are Adobe and Macromedia Sad huh, but the god news is the Delphi to C# can't be that bigger jump. Neven _______________________________________________ Delphi mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ns3.123.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi
