You just have to take a wander over to the NZ DOT Net list group to see names that used to be on this list, using C# now. That can't be good for Borland or Delphi. As you say the other tools Borland has will probably see its future rosy, but I'm more interested in the future of Delphi.
If even ex Delphi developers can't see that there is a reason enough to stay with Delphi over C# then that can't be a good thing surely. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Vowles Sent: Saturday, 24 January 2004 12:14 p.m. To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List' Subject: RE: [DUG] [OFF-TOPIC] Delphi 8 and .net You are both presuming that all Borland is is IDEs. Which quite clearly it isn't - we have Caliber for Requirements Management (what do you use for yours? Nothing? Word? 52-56% of product defects arise because of requirements defects), StarTeam for management (defect tracking, version control, task integration with MS Project and others), Together (for Java (Jbuilder & Eclipse) and .NET (Visual Studio)) for modeling, OptimizeIt (including the Suite, Enterprise Suite and ServerTrace), BES/AppServer, BES/Visibroker (the most embedded CORBA in the world, we sold a truckload of that last year) and InterBase and JDataStore. Borland still quite clearly considers the IDEs important, with C++BuilderX (whose next version is looking very cool), C#Builder, Delphi and JBuilderX. All of the above tools are integrated into our product lines and into Eclipse and Visual Studio as well (give or take some variations) and having got back from the Sales Conference I have heard of others as well. Wall Street predicts our revenue will grow within the next year, if 50% of the _active_ Delphi developers (those we know of from the BDN) take to .NET there will be more Delphi .NET developers than C# Developers (Microsoft says there are only 400k C# Developers), Borland and Microsoft are cosy, and finally, remember that quite a few analysts said we wouldn't see in the new millennium - and we are stronger than we have been since the heydays of Borland Office and Paradox. Borland now competes in the same space as Rational, and we have _way_ better products! Richard _______________________________________________ Delphi mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ns3.123.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi
