We want to start a vote JUST on reusing an existing security API (sounds
like Shiro) for building a new API for IDM?

Just trying to understand exactly what people are asking the vote to be
about.

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Gerhard Petracek <
[email protected]> wrote:

> +1 for a vote about the IDM part, but imo we need a clear majority to
> continue or drop with it.
> if we don't have a clear majority, we should discuss it again in detail
> (independent of the result).
>
> regards,
> gerhard
>
>
>
> 2012/7/26 Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]>
>
> > so it really seems a vote is needed no?
> >
> > - Romain
> >
> >
> > 2012/7/26 Jason Porter <[email protected]>
> >
> > > I had suggested that awhile ago, but I don't think there was consensus.
> > Or
> > > maybe I just thought about it :) been awhile.
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > On Jul 26, 2012, at 9:22, Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > hmm, not sure it answers the question. Shiro is an (fine IMO) API, DS
> > > could
> > > > use it as base instead of creating a new one in the Apache ecosystem.
> > > >
> > > > - Romain
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2012/7/26 Anil Saldhana <[email protected]>
> > > >
> > > >> If Deltaspike desires to provide integration with shiro, make it as
> an
> > > >> independent sub module of security. Similar to the independence of
> the
> > > IDM
> > > >> component. Security is too large to reside as a single module.
> > > >>
> > > >> On Jul 25, 2012, at 4:45 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > [email protected]>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> +1
> > > >>>
> > > >>> - Romain
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 2012/7/25 Gerhard Petracek <[email protected]>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> hi @ all,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> if there are objections, we have to finish the discussion before
> we
> > > >>>> continue with it or we start a vote about it.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> regards,
> > > >>>> gerhard
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> 2012/7/12 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <[email protected]>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Yes, fully agree.
> > > >>>>> I don't see any good reason to create a new framework.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Shiro, which is also in Apache is really great.
> > > >>>>> They seem really interested in integrating CDI and they plan to
> do
> > > so.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> There is some interesting posts.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> http://shiro-developer.582600.n2.nabble.com/CDI-and-WSS4J-integration-tp7577503.html
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> http://shiro-developer.582600.n2.nabble.com/Security-in-DeltaSpike-tp7577514.html
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Jean-Louis
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> 2012/7/12 Mehdi Heidarzadeh <[email protected]>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Rather than marry into one security framework (Shiro),
> >  Deltaspike
> > > >>>>> should
> > > >>>>>>> enable all security frameworks to provide integration. That
> > > includes
> > > >> a
> > > >>>>> DS
> > > >>>>>>> integration from Shiro.
> > > >>>>>> +1
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Agree. If DS can provide a layer to support different existing
> > > >>>> security
> > > >>>>>>> frameworks (Shiro, Spring Security, ...) with perhaps JAAS
> > modules
> > > >>>>> (LDAP,
> > > >>>>>>> JDBC, PropertiesFile, EncryptedPropertiesFile, ...) top of CDI,
> > > that
> > > >>>>>> should
> > > >>>>>>> be fine
> > > >>>>>> +1
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> With a good provided security integration api in DS, anyone
> > > interested
> > > >>>> in
> > > >>>>>> any of those security frameworks will be able to use DS and that
> > > >> sounds
> > > >>>>>> very nice and elegant.
> > > >>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>> Mehdi Heidarzadeh Ardalani
> > > >>>>>> Independent JEE Consultant, Architect and Developer.
> > > >>>>>> http://www.TheBigJavaBlog.com
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
>



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