> The basic question is where LO goes. Microsoft has done a step
> forward with Ribbon controls 

MS has always been at the antipode of ergonomics. And they keep moving
in the *wrong* direction. "Ribbons" as well as the totally ridiculous
Windows 8 GUI - try to accomplish *any* work with it, you'll rather end
up tossing the screen through the closed window of your office - are
just the latest cerebral flatulances emanating from their "product
managers' "brains".

> (that is the opposite to your idea) and
> maybe we find the other way with simplification at Google's tools.

Google's just equally ridiculous and dysfunctional crap.

*Never* take products made by managed corporations as examples to
follow.

> I guess LO is used for its conventional user experience. That means
> all functions reside in the main menu and some have fast access at the
> toolbar. Those items need to be grouped (small separator lines
> between)

No.

It has been proven over and over again that "separator" lines do
*NOT* "separate". They effectively do the *opposite*, besides adding
elements that are just confusing for the eyes.

*Never* use them.

Use *exclusively* whitespace to group objects.

Sincerely,

Wolfgang

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