Forwarding to Design as per Reid's suggestion.
Andi and I settled this outside and he retracts his 'Yuck, sounds as
bad as "No items in this silo" statement. There was a misunderstand
about the subtle, yet significant differences between an application
area and a silo. (Silos partition / segregate / erect insurmountable
walls that simultaneously imprison and exclude. Application areas
filter / narrow focus / form flexible, porous, membranous, conceptual
boundaries that are easily crossed, stretched and expanded.) Be a
Uniter, not a Divider!
In any case, here are what I believe are the high-level design
requirements:
Avoid terminology related to:
+ Views
+ Search and filters (I don't think users necessarily understand
what's going in the sidebar through the lens of search and queries.)
+ Display issues
I would prefer to stick to concrete ideas that are within the realm
of end-user vocabulary
+ Items
+ Collections
+ Application areas
(List is not in the end user vocabulary.)
Mimi
Begin forwarded message:
From: Reid Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: April 2, 2007 11:33:04 AM PDT
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [chandler-users] This collection is empty.
On Apr 2, 2007, at 14:19, Andi Vajda wrote:
On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Mimi Yin wrote:
Well we now use view to refer to the display widget in the
Summary pane: Triage Table versus Calendar, so that doesn't feel
quite right either.
I mean the literal way to do it would be: "This collection
contains no items in this application area."
But for some reason, that sounds to me like someone trying to
avoid a touchy subject.
What about: "No items in this application area."
Yuck, sounds as bad as "No items in this silo"
Andi..
How about:
No applicable items
No items found (implies filtering/search)
Empty filter (-1 on explicit use of word "filter" :-/)
Empty list (more subtle implication of processing/filtering; but
introduces term "list"..)
Hm, this is sounding more like a design list issue..
Reid
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From: D John Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: April 2, 2007 11:31:35 AM PDT
To: Mimi Yin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Andi Vajda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, chandler-
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Subject: Re: [chandler-users] This collection is empty.
How about "No items to view"?
On Apr 2, 2007, at 10:59 AM, Mimi Yin wrote:
Well we now use view to refer to the display widget in the Summary
pane: Triage Table versus Calendar, so that doesn't feel quite
right either.
I mean the literal way to do it would be: "This collection
contains no items in this application area."
But for some reason, that sounds to me like someone trying to
avoid a touchy subject.
What about: "No items in this application area."
This is equally as untrue as This collection is empty, but perhaps
people will be less likely to conclude that they have no Msgs/
Tasks or Events at all and "This collection'" will be more readily
implied.
Mimi
On Apr 2, 2007, at 10:44 AM, D John Anderson wrote:
Personally, I think that "0 items" doesn't really address the
"heart-attack" response of "no items in the collection", and the
benefit of being shorter doesn't seem very important.
How about "no items in this view"?
John
On Apr 2, 2007, at 10:34 AM, Andi Vajda wrote:
On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Mimi Yin wrote:
I have logged a new bug to improve the text, so that it's less
heart-attack inducing :o)
https://bugzilla.osafoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8627
New Proposal: 0 items.
How about: "No items displayed" ?
Andi..
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Begin forwarded message:
From: Andi Vajda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: April 2, 2007 11:19:49 AM PDT
To: Mimi Yin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: D John Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, chandler-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [chandler-users] This collection is empty.
Reply-To: Andi Vajda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Mimi Yin wrote:
Well we now use view to refer to the display widget in the Summary
pane: Triage Table versus Calendar, so that doesn't feel quite
right either.
I mean the literal way to do it would be: "This collection
contains no items in this application area."
But for some reason, that sounds to me like someone trying to
avoid a touchy subject.
What about: "No items in this application area."
Yuck, sounds as bad as "No items in this silo"
Andi..
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