I agree with Florian here. It took me a bit of time to interact with the design team but it is possible. It is a very young team and extremely busy and overloaded. They are welcoming for anyone to work with them on design and once you get their attention they will help you integrate more. The best way to be heard is to get involved.
But I also understand Luis. I have been working with Allan Day and others for a while now and they are a very productive. The missing point here is that maybe and only maybe because most of the designers are hired by RH (which i consider a blessing if you get paid to work for GNOME), they forget the social capital which is the community, that will implement the work they design. Without interaction with the community no work will be done. And by saying this has to be done because it was decided without any written form or communication it makes things harder. Yes I know there is a wiki but sometimes a developer wants to discuss design decisions but due to the lack of communication efforts from both sides, it seems that the decisions are taken by the design team. My point is that designers should communicate and respect the opinions of the developers. Developers don't just wait to the last moment. Get involved and discuss. I know every side has its own priorities, but we are a community and discussions and compromises need to be made. We want to deliver a product. Some of us get paid to do this, but not all of us. Most of us do it as fun and in our free time. We are a community, this means there is a social aspect involved. And if we can not nurture this social aspect, issues like these show up. Maybe the decision process is flawed. Sometimes technical aspects can not be decided by the design team and thus I would recommend having 2 types of proposals. a feature proposal (UX) and a module proposal (technical stuff). Regards Seif On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Florian Müllner <fmuell...@gnome.org> wrote: > > > On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Luis Medinas <lmedi...@gnome.org> wrote: >> >> do you really want to start talking about what the community think about >> this ? Because if you want to start talking i recommend to see how many >> threads we have, specially on gnome-shell ml, about design decisions that >> makes the community powerless against the almighty Design Team. > > > ... and from before the design team even existed, there are even more > threads about "design decisions that make the community powerless against > the almighty GNOME Developers" - the (rightful) answer to that is usually > "don't just complain, get involved". The same still holds true with the > design team - really, those folks would *love* seeing more people getting > involved. > > > Regards, > Florian > > _______________________________________________ > desktop-devel-list mailing list > desktop-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list