On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Seif Lotfy <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Shaun McCance <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Sun, 2012-04-22 at 18:21 +0200, Florian Max wrote:
> >
> >> Which brings us to the matter of openness: the results of everything
> >> the design team does ends up on the GNOME wiki under
> >> live.gnome.org/Design.
> >
> > I think people are more concerned about being able to have input
> > on the process, not on seeing the results published on the wiki.
> > I'm on #gnome-design all day. I often skim the backlog. I don't
> > really see the discussion that leads to the results. Sometimes
> > I see mention of meetings. I don't know where those meetings
> > happen.
>
> Exactly. Non-designers want to be part of the process. Reasons behind
> decisions need to be written somewhere, but that is not enough.
>
> If a new a developer comes and asks for reasons behind a decisions, I
> doubt that the designers, who are already as busy as it gets, can take
> time to explain each one who comes over what problem is being solved
> via the design and how.
> So having design decisions and their reasoning documented would help.
> But also as designers it is their responsibility to communicate with
> those who still doubt these decisions, starting with those willing to
> implement or help out directly. Because if they can explain to those
> nearest to them, those can then jump in to help others.
>
>
No, you get volunteer community managers to communicate those design
decisions.  A community manager should be able to get a general feel of
what design decisions are having issues with the community.  At some point
maybe sucha person can opt for a conversation with specific individuals but
otherwise you know there are a lot of unreasonable people out here and the
internet makes them more unreasonable than they would be usually.

Luckily for us, we do have a number of people who couldu do that kind of
community management, Olav for one has already been doing some of it.   I
do it more externally.

Big projects like Mozilla have a community managers.  It's definitely
something this project should do more of.

sri
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