Brian Cameron wrote:

>
> Calum:
>
> I wanted to discuss the spec for the "Sound & Video" section.  As you
> highlight, this section is bewildering in its duplicated choices.
> Here's my perspective on what we should be doing and details about
> the programs.
>
> 1) We probably don't need to include Java Media Player in the menu
>     anymore.  I believe that realplay does everything that JMP can
>     do and more.

Drop it

>
> 2) We probably do not want to ship vu-meter at all.  Note that this
>     volume meter only works with esd, and aside from desktop sounds
>     all GNOME media programs use gstreamer talking directly to the
>     sunaudio device rather than esd.  So this vumeter isn't really
>     very useful.
>
> 3) I think Real Media allows users to play CD's.  Therefore, we
>     probably don't want gnome-cd in the menu.  It isn't a very
>     good CD player anyway.  If we ever get sound-juicer working
>     (we first need to get libparanoia working on Solaris), then
>     we could include sound-juicer since it is a good CD ripping
>     tool (something Real does not do).  So sound-juicer is probably
>     OK listed as TBD.

If RealPlayer plays CD lets drop gnome-cd, as to sound-juicer I do not 
think we need to ship a CD ripper, suers can downlaod it from blastwave

>
> 4) It's annoying that we include Audio Control and "Volume Control".
>     We probably need to evaluate these two from a functionality
>     and accessibility perspective and figure out which one to
>     ship.  sdtaudiocontrol uses Java and gnome-volume-control uses
>     GTK+ so they both should be accessible.
>
> 5) We probably do want to include totem just because some users
>     may want to download Fluendo DVD, MPEG4, WindowsMedia, etc.
>     plugins and this tool therefore will allow people to play
>     some media types unsupported by Real.

We definetly want totem, we can patch it or get fluendo to patch it to 
point to the fluendo website

>
> 6) We may want to consider including Jamboree.  It is a program
>     that lets you manage playlists of audiofiles, much like
>     iTunes does.  Jamboree does not interact with the CD player,
>     but for usrs who have a hard drive full of sound files,
>     Jamboree makes it possible to jukebox your audio.  I added
>     Jamboree to the extra-specs so you can build it and see how
>     it works.  Let me know if you think this should be added.
>     One hassle is that Jamboree uses the gdmb (GNU Database)
>     interfaces and we'll probably have to hack Jamboree to use
>     Berkely DB instead if we want to ship this.  That shouldn't
>     be too much work, though.

I think we should definetly include this

>
> 7) We should not ship gnome-sound-recorder unless we get around
>     to writing a GStreamer 0.10 SunAudio record plugin.  There
>     currently is no record plugin for Solaris, so you can't
>     record anyway.  We can add this back (since it is the only
>     program that allows you to record audio) if we do this.

I vote drop it

>
> So I propose this menu should just have:
>
> Either Audio Control or Volume Control
> CD Database

Should CD database be in this sub-menu

> Real Player 10
> Sound Juicer (TBD)
> Jamboree (TBD)
> Totem Movie Player
>
> Hope this helps...
>
> Brian
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