On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 13:04:08 -0700 Chuck Davis <[email protected]> wrote:
> So, what are you waiting for? > https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/OpenJFX/Main will be more than > happy to suck up some energy from you. > > Sorry, I guess I'm in a snarky mood today but I just get so tired of > everybody ragging on Oracle. I see this constantly for years around Gentoo. While others are not hated, which should be IMHO like Google, and others. Oracle is hardly the bad company out there. Though others are forcing their hand in a way, eating into their eco system. IMHO they are just reacting to ensure their own place in the market space. > How long has OpenJDK been the source and > Oracle has been doctoring it to make it usable? Now it has a shiny, > new rendering engine for AWT/Swing; they don't have to screw around > upgrading rendering with every release. What else should we (the > Community) be doing for Java to make it more usable? What bugs have > any of us here fixed (I know some of you have done many and you are > herewith thanked for your efforts)? There is tons of interest in OpenJDK in the FOSS world and almost no one working on building it, etc. That includes myself. I am happy to use the binaries Oracle puts out, knowing the time they put into such. Seeing the time others put into just packaging OpenJDK. > Same can be said for OpenJFX. Which almost no distro or anyone has packaged anywhere. https://bugs.gentoo.org/547918 The lack of involvement in OpenJDK gets even worse with OpenJFX... > As far as I know Oracle and IBM are the only companies that have been > taking OpenJDK and doctoring it to improve it enough to be released > (and IBM has never included JFX). Maybe they're tired of the drag > we've been. IBM released their OpenJ9 which seems to have a fair amount of interest. But short of them releasing an OpenJDK with OpenJ9, not sure who else would have made that happen. https://github.com/eclipse/openj9 https://github.com/ibmruntimes/openj9-openjdk-jdk9 There is like 1 guy working on it at RedHat, short of the icedtea-web team. This guy should have a team, and I question why Redhat has not invested in more man power. Java is a big revenue source for RedHat. https://www.linkedin.com/in/gnuandrew http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/distro-pkg-dev/ Then again RedHat is footing the bill for the entire world... > PS I am not and never have been an Oracle employee. I don't get > commissions for sales of their products. I'm just another freeloader > like the rest of you whiners and complainers (trust me, I've done my > share). Same here, though I know someone who works for them locally. I even tried to apply with them years ago and never got a call back or anything. Thus not a super fan of Oracle, but I have no reason to dislike them either. More a Sun fan, but those years are passed. I respect Oracle as a tech company, and thankful for what they do put out. Way better than others like say Google.... -- William L. Thomson Jr.
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