Chuck, I appreciate free software as much as the next guy. But I still
blame Sun and Oracle for killing AWT/Swing.
If they wanted more community contributions they could have opened up
the bug reporting system, faciliated pull requests, and shown that they
are acting in good faith. They chose to pursue a one-way conversation
and it cost them the market.
So yes, I appreciate what we got but ultimately Oracle bares the
responsibility for AWT/Swing/JavaFX dying. Oracle is not a B2C company
and these technologies requires a company that excels at marketing to
end-users.
Gili
On 2018-03-14 4:04 PM, Chuck Davis wrote:
So, what are you waiting for?
https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/OpenJFX/Main will be more than happy
to suck up some energy from you.
Sorry, I guess I'm in a snarky mood today but I just get so tired of
everybody ragging on Oracle. How long has OpenJDK been the source and
Oracle has been doctoring it to make it usable? Now it has a shiny, new
rendering engine for AWT/Swing; they don't have to screw around upgrading
rendering with every release. What else should we (the Community) be doing
for Java to make it more usable? What bugs have any of us here fixed (I
know some of you have done many and you are herewith thanked for your
efforts)?
Same can be said for OpenJFX.
As far as I know Oracle and IBM are the only companies that have been
taking OpenJDK and doctoring it to improve it enough to be released (and
IBM has never included JFX). Maybe they're tired of the drag we've been.
PS I am not and never have been an Oracle employee. I don't get
commissions for sales of their products. I'm just another freeloader like
the rest of you whiners and complainers (trust me, I've done my share).
PPS Doubly snarky benefits being dished out today -- free as in beer.
On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 11:53 AM, Norquay <[email protected]> wrote:
JavaFX would be faster than WebGL if it got some developer energy pumped
into it. O is so fucking brain dead...
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