Personally, I don't think we want to remove the manual stuff.

I know when I'm travelling, I often don't have any of the automatic methods 
available (i.e. my prepaid sim doesn't work in Eurpoe), and I like to change 
the timezone while I'm on the plane. Free Wifi seems to be much more uncommon 
in the European airports than it is in North America.

GPS gernally doesn't give you a timezone (although there isn't any reason it 
couldn't since you should be able to use a timezone map). Although if you lived 
in a timezone border town, you probably wouldn't want your time flipping every 
time you go shopping either.

Dave Hylands

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andreas Gal" <[email protected]>
> To: "Alex Keybl" <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected], [email protected], "Cheng Wang" 
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 10:26:08 AM
> Subject: Re: [b2g] Feedback from Telefonica internal dogfooding program
> 
> The date issue is definitely a problem. I have seen it myself
> repeatedly. I still think we should delete all the manual date/time
> setting code and rely on the many time sources we have available
> instead (NITZ, NTP, GPS).
> 
> Andreas
> 
> Sent from Mobile.
> 
> On Apr 30, 2013, at 10:22, Alex Keybl <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > I'll try to address the most critical here, and if we should be
> > concerned for v1.0.1.
> >
> >> * 3G stops working after a while (8 hours? One day?)
> >> * Short battery life (a few mentions that it got worse with
> >> update), this might also be issues with charging since we had
> >> those at MWC with Geeksphones.
> >> * Phones stuck in 1980 (which causes errors with marketplace,
> >> https sites, and others)
> >
> > Likely hardware/build/changeset specific. We should be confident in
> > our testing as well as partner longevity/field testing for v1.0.1
> > here.
> >
> >> * After saving an app (may be web app?) to the desktop, it works
> >> the first time but hangs after future attempts (lots of mentions
> >> of twitter)
> >> * Problems handling a time change (clocks off by an hour, alarms
> >> firing wrong)
> >
> > Would be more interesting if we're able to reproduce these (or had
> > steps to reproduce). Do we have contact info?
> >
> > -Alex
> >
> > On Apr 29, 2013, at 11:52 PM, Cheng Wang <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Feedback on Keons and Peaks from Telefonica's dogfooding program
> >> (mostly Peaks, I think, but I don't have the solid numbers).
> >>  Most of these came from users who'd updated to the 20130404
> >> build (I think this is a build that TEF is handing out?), I've
> >> tried to take out the feedback from users still on 20130222 (this
> >> was the build shipping with the phones). A few users have
> >> 20130416 or 20130418 (this is the current GP build).
> >>
> >> Fair warning, this is interpreted from text that was machine
> >> translated from Spanish so details may be missing/incorrect.
> >>
> >> I got a ton of feedback from them so pretty much everything here
> >> got mentioned at least a few times.
> >>
> >> Concerning things:
> >>
> >> * 3G stops working after a while (8 hours? One day?)
> >> * After saving an app (may be web app?) to the desktop, it works
> >> the first time but hangs after future attempts (lots of mentions
> >> of twitter)
> >> * Lots of trouble with the back button, this came up almost as
> >> frequently as the tiny fonts on the Peak, easily dozens of times.
> >> * Short battery life (a few mentions that it got worse with
> >> update), this might also be issues with charging since we had
> >> those at MWC with Geeksphones.
> >> * Phones stuck in 1980 (which causes errors with marketplace,
> >> https sites, and others)
> >> * Problems handling a time change (clocks off by an hour, alarms
> >> firing wrong)
> >>
> >> Bugs (things are broken/feel broken):
> >> * Fonts, buttons are too small (likely a Peak resolution problem)
> >> -- This one got mentioned so many times, in particular Here maps
> >> which can't zoom and browser
> >> * Persistent update for Here Maps that won't go away.
> >> * 3G stops working after a while (8 hours? One day?)
> >> * Calendar entries duplicated (not sure why)
> >> * Black screens were reported a few times from different usecases
> >> * "Taking the phone in airplane mode, open the notification center
> >> to remove airplane mode, I am asked the pin but does not hide the
> >> notification center and this is therefore covering up the option
> >> to accept."
> >> * Didn't handle a time change correctly (clock in notification bar
> >> is correct, clock on home screen isn't, alarm at the wrong time)
> >> * Import from SIM stalls out (maybe only during first run)
> >> * Outgoing SMSes sometimes get weird characters appended (may be a
> >> problem with the SIMs that they're using)
> >> * Undefined MAC address
> >> * Even though specific Facebook contacts were selected, all
> >> contacts were downloaded
> >> * After saving a web app to the desktop, it works the first time
> >> but hangs after future attempts (may explain the twitter problem
> >> above)
> >> * Camera flash settings are odd (there are four states but three
> >> symbols and the symbols don't necessarily match with behavior)
> >> * Browser sometimes comes up blank
> >> * Lots of WiFi issues: often need to reenter passwords, may need
> >> to reboot to switch between connections, can't seem to connect
> >> automatically.
> >> * "There was an error synchronizing your Facebook Contacts" once a
> >> day.
> >> * SMSs take a long time to be received (may meaning before we
> >> notify?)
> >>
> >> Annoyances:
> >>
> >> * Back button hard to hit reliably (too small, sometimes hits
> >> notification bar, too far to reach)
> >> * Moving the cursor when editing text is too hard
> >> * Won't update reliably (may just be Here maps)
> >> * Music stops playing when music app loses focus
> >> * Settings > Date Time > Doesn't always show the current time
> >> zone.
> >> * Importing both Facebook and Google contacts gets names messed up
> >> (possibly if people are maybe using different names?) -- Can't
> >> put custom name on imported contacts or merge contacts into a
> >> single name
> >> * Cannot disable autorotate or force it for some apps
> >> * Can't zoom the browser (may be that users are trying to do it
> >> wrong)
> >> * Hangs when using it as a hotspot "after a while"
> >> * Video recorded is a crop of what's actually displayed
> >> * Too easy to tap notification bar buttons when trying to close
> >> the bar
> >> * Cannot change browser search engine (came up multiple times)
> >> * Applications aren't keeping state between launches so it doesn't
> >> seem to be multitasking.
> >> * Really short battery life (or possibly issues charging) --
> >> complaints that this started after the update.
> >> * A lot of people seem to have clocks set at 1980 (which makes
> >> HTTPS not work)
> >> * Some things aren't translated to spanish
> >> * Can't configure screen timeout (my Peak has a setting for this
> >> but I can't tell if it's working)
> >> * Dailer shouldn't beep when phone is silent
> >> * Keyboard requires a lot of precision
> >> * No volume in music apps
> >> * Changing SIM password is confusing (no feedback)
> >> * Calendar alerts for "right now" when it means "in 15 minutes"
> >>
> >>
> >> Feature requests:
> >>
> >> * Smart keyboard capitalization (caps for first letter in names
> >> for example)
> >> * Change user agent so we stop getting offered android apps
> >> * Cursors (password fields, entering SIM unlocks etc)
> >> * Volume for radio (this came up a surprising amount)
> >> * Enable USB storage mode by default
> >> * Need a game built in (lots of suggestions)
> >> * More apps need to be offline
> >> * Needs a file manager and downloading of files in the browser
> >> * Needs more homescreens
> >> * Capslock
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