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----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Collette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Derek Glidden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: OpenSRS API misc comments


>
> Does anyone here actually know what opensource means? It doesn't mean that
> you complain to opensrs about how they should pander to your every whim.
> It means that they will work on making _a_ functional system, as they see
> fit that resolves the _needs_ of the users, and if you don't _like_ the
> system or are not able to _wrap_your_brain_ around it, you are totally
> free to code your own.
>
> Any cool spiffy feature or nifty idea that would make your day, is up to
> _you_ to implement. In the end, it's just a byte stream going down a
> socket, that any language could duplicate. And yes, it might be easier for
> you, using language X on platform Y if they used approach Z, but they may
> not have _time_ to reimplement the whole system to be easier for _you_.
>
> That being said, I also think it would be better using the spiffy XML
> method with chocolate sprinkles on top, but until I write the code to do
> that, and send it to them as a patch (which I won't do because perl works
> fine for me) then I wouldn't complain about what they do.
>
>
> Mark Collette
> hyperbyte inc.
>
>
> On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Derek Glidden wrote:
>
> > Michael Shields wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > Derek Glidden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Like at least a couple others who've chimed in on the list, I am not
by
> > > > nature a Perl hacker.  Trying to wrap my brain around Perl to
implement
> > > > a custom client for my company has been a chore. Add to the fact
that
> > > > the API is at times inconsistent (domain or reg_domain? just a
cookie,
> > > > or cookie, reg_username and reg_password?) and it's been quite a
> > > > challenge for me.  I much prefer, shall we say, a more strict and
> > > > structured language like Java or C.
> > >
> > > "Structured" languages do not necessary lead to internally consistent
> > > API or protocol design, and vice versa.  Please target the actual
> > > problem.
> >
> > What the hell does that mean?  The whole point of my comments was to
> > "target the actual problem" by trying to make a point that a less
> > Perl-oriented API would be beneficial to a lot of people. If it so
> > happens that I prefer to write in Java than Perl, because I am more
> > familiar and comfortable with Java than with Perl, is that a problem?
> > If so, it seems to me the Tucows fellows should just rename "OpenSRS" to
> > "OnlyPerlSRS" and be done with it and go ahead and permanently piss off
> > and drive away anyone who has any hope of convincing them to move to
> > something that's not Perl-specific.  Since they don't seem to be doing
> > that, I'm assuming you're just a Perl bigot taking any meager
> > opportunity he can to slam someone who is not a Perl bigot.
> >
> > EOT
> >
> > --
> > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> > With Microsoft products, failure is not           Derek Glidden
> > an option - it's a standard component.      http://3dlinux.org/
> > Choose your life.  Choose your            http://www.tbcpc.org/
> > future.  Choose Linux.              http://www.illusionary.com/
> >
>
>

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