On 2014-08-26, 9:14 PM, Joshua Cranmer 🐧 wrote:
On 8/26/2014 6:20 PM, Neil wrote:
Ehsan Akhgari wrote:

I was talking about MSVC2012 + the November CTP.  We absolutely don't
want to support older versions of 2012 (or 2013 for that matter.)

What does that mean and why isn't it mentioned on MDN?


The MSVC development team announced in 2012 that they would be working
on bringing new C++11 features to Visual Studio faster via out-of-band
Consumer Technology Previews (CTPs for short). I hadn't bothered to list
CTP as minimum features because:
1. My understanding is that the CTP is basically intended to be
alpha-quality releases.
2. The official guides on CTP explicitly advise against relying on them
for production purposes.
3. They are not as easy to get installed as VS (they don't autoinstall
like service packs, e.g.)
4. I thought it would make the page overly complicated.
5. When MSVS announced more frequent releases, I assumed that the need
to worry about CTPs was minimal.

FWIW, I'm not entirely sure that a minimum dependency specifically on a
CTP is a terribly good idea.

Please note that the compiler only needs to be as good as giving developers a build that works well enough to use in their local dev environment. And even that should be a transitional period. Really, all developers should install MSVC 2013 once we switch. There is no reason to not do that, given the availability of MSVC 2013 Express <http://www.visualstudio.com/downloads/download-visual-studio-vs#d-express-windows-desktop>.

We are not talking about shipping anything with that compiler.

Cheers,
Ehsan
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