Anne,

Le 20 sept. 2014 à 18:20, Anne van Kesteren <ann...@annevk.nl> a écrit :
> Yeah the W3C crowd keeps saying that

Here the W3C crowd. We (Mozilla) have a conflict ;) 
http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=40318&public=1&order=org#_MozillaFoundation

This apart, I would love to have this discussion during the work week in 
December. I think F2F removes a lot of the imaginary tensions conveyed by 
emails. :) You know me, I know you. I don't know that much Boris though apart 
online. Unfortunately. So discussions in December please. 


> The problem is that the W3C publishes something that is 500 commits
> behind what they copied from and claims it's interoperable while the
> test coverage is mediocre.

Is the whatwg spec interoperable? Will it ever be?
So I guess the answer will be "no". Which makes an interesting issue and it's 
why the discussion currently happening about the future of HTML is cool. 

Let's see 
http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/public-permissive-exit-criteria.html

> Interoperable
> 
> Qualitatively interoperable at at a judgment level, not necessarily for every 
> spec assertion. A test suite may be used as guidance for the qualitative 
> decision.

Does it meet this criteria? If not on which sections it doesn't.

Also there is a link about features at Risk.
http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/HTML5.0AtRiskFeatures
Should they be removed?


That doesn't help David Baron in his job as an AC rep though.

> If there are comments you think Mozilla should send as part of the
> review, or if you think Mozilla should voice support or opposition
> to the specification, please say so in this thread.  (I'd note,
> however, that there have been many previous opportunities to make
> comments, so it's somewhat bad form to bring up fundamental issues
> for the first time at this stage.)


So Boris said incomplete test suite. That's one comment.

My take is that we should support its publication with a record of the parts we 
think didn't work and what we would love to see for the next generation of HTML 
and how it should be developed with us participating.




-- 
Karl Dubost, Mozilla
http://www.la-grange.net/karl/moz

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