On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Mike Hoye <mh...@mozilla.com> wrote:

> On 2015-06-11 3:48 PM, R Kent James wrote:
>
>> Maybe the correct fix is to start paying attention to votes.
>>
> If you choose your project priorities based on internet voting, you're
> gonna have a bad time.
>
> The word "vote" implies that the act of voting has a direct effect on the
> outcome,


I don't see is anything in the definition that implies direct effect
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vote

most of that is around the idea that a vote is an expression of opinion or
preference.

Seems like we don't need to, and haven't in many cases, implemented
features
or fixes with lots of votes but they at least deserve some kind of response
due to the
high level of interest, and that's generally what happens.

There are a few of us still round from the origin of many of these bugzilla
features
and for this one I think it was  mostly just intended as a mechanism to
make sure we
had some ways to get a good collection of eyeballs on a particular issue
where lots
of people shared the same experience or ideas, and to make sure at least
some kind of response was in place that explained the reason for doing,
or not doing, some course of action.

Based on that you might come away with a different opinion that voting
was working and serving a valuable service in its most simple form.

Its it just the case that we need to make it more clear that a vote means
"vote for this bug to get more people looking at and discussing this bug"?

It seems like the original proposal was to try and cut down on bugzilla
features
 with the idea of trying to remove and simplify.  Now its turned into yeah,
there is something
here that people want to be able to do here, but voting is not quite it,
and it might
deserve more investigation and feature work to really solve "the  real"
problem.

That seems like its leading more towards taking something simple like the
voting feature
we have now and turning it into something more complex.  That's an
interesting
turn in the discussion and something you are likely to run into as you try
to examine
more bugzilla features.

-chofmann



> which is clearly not the case here and really shouldn't be. But that's
> probably the root of a lot of community frustration.
>
> I definitely think that we need a low-friction, community-facing way to
> express interest in a bug's outcome - maybe a list the only CC's
> participants on status changes, but not on new comments? - but as it stands
> voting isn't the right thing.
>
>
> - mhoye
>
>
>
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