On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 7:09 PM, Jonathan Rudenberg via dev-security-policy <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote: > >> On Jun 8, 2017, at 20:43, Ben Wilson via dev-security-policy >> <email@example.com> wrote: >> >> I don't believe that disclosure of root certificates is the responsibility >> of a CA that has cross-certified a key. For instance, the CCADB interface >> talks in terms of "Intermediate CAs". Root CAs are the responsibility of >> browsers to upload. I don't even have access to upload a "root" >> certificate. > > I think the Mozilla Root Store policy is pretty clear on this point: > >> All certificates that are capable of being used to issue new certificates, >> and which directly or transitively chain to a certificate included in >> Mozilla’s CA Certificate Program, MUST be operated in accordance with this >> policy and MUST either be technically constrained or be publicly disclosed >> and audited. > > The self-signed certificates in the present set are all in scope for the > disclosure policy because they are capable of being used to issue new > certificates and chain to a certificate included in Mozilla’s CA Certificate > Program. From the perspective of the Mozilla root store they look like > intermediates because they can be used as intermediates in a valid path to a > root certificate trusted by Mozilla.
There are two important things about self-issued certificates: 1) They cannot expand the scope of what is allowed. Cross-certificates can create alternative paths with different restrictions. Self-issued certificates do not provide alternative paths that may have fewer constraints. 2) There is no way for a "parent" CA to prevent them from existing. Even if the only cross-sign has a path length constraint of zero, the "child" CA can issue self-issued certificates all day long. If they are self-signed there is no real value in disclosing them, given #1. I think that it is reasonable to say that self-signed certificates are out of scope. Thanks, Peter _______________________________________________ dev-security-policy mailing list firstname.lastname@example.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-security-policy