Thank you for your perseverance. It will be very helpful to see
regular build results from full ITs. *fingers crossed*

--
Christopher L Tubbs II
http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii


On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 6:36 PM, Josh Elser <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ok, test email from jenkins as "me" went through. Just kicked off ITs for
> 1.6 and master which should go to notifications.
>
> This has blown up to be so much more painful than necessary. Sheesh.
>
>
> Josh Elser wrote:
>>
>> Weird, you did get my message? I thought it had bounced. Odd.
>>
>> I'll see what happens if I try to send with my apache.org.
>>
>> Christopher wrote:
>>>
>>> So, I don't think you'd have to use your ASF password unless you
>>> wanted to send using the ASF SMTP. That may not be necessary, unless
>>> the mailing lists check the origin to prevent spam, or something
>>> (would probably need to check with INFRA for info on that). The "From"
>>> line is not actually part of the SMTP protocol itself, so you should
>>> be able to just tell Jenkins to use anything. If there is a check in
>>> place, I *think* all you'd really need to do is subscribe to the list
>>> with the email address you wish to use, and ensure that the MX record
>>> is properly set up for your domain.
>>>
>>> Best thing to do is probably to create an INFRA ticket explaining what
>>> you're trying to do (with the from address you want to use and host
>>> you are trying to send from) and see if they can just whitelist the
>>> address.
>>>
>>> FWIW, I did see your test message from [email protected] to the
>>> notifcations list...
>>>
>>> --
>>> Christopher L Tubbs II
>>> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Josh Elser<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I do not want to configure my server to do that, as it would require
>>>> me to
>>>> share my ASF password there. I haven't spent enough time to convince
>>>> myself
>>>> that it's secure enough to do that.
>>>>
>>>> If you can find why exactly it isn't working (I can't even mail from
>>>> [email protected]), I'm all ears. I've just spent too much time
>>>> already (in
>>>> addition to wasting some of Billie's) to continue trying to figure
>>>> out why.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Christopher wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not a fan of putting it on the dev@ list. There must be a way to
>>>>> add the email to a whitelist. Or... can you configure Jenkins to just
>>>>> send as your from address as [email protected]?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Christopher L Tubbs II
>>>>> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Josh Elser<[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, posts to notifications@ requires an apache.org email addr. I've
>>>>>> lost
>>>>>> interest in trying to make it work any further.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are people interested in getting the notifications to this list
>>>>>> ([email protected])
>>>>>> instead of notifications@? I figure most people probably use
>>>>>> filters of
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> form to move things around anyways.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LMK, I won't set this up without a general ack from everyone since it
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> increase the traffic here dramatically.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Elser wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Update on this: I had worked with Billie and little bit to try to get
>>>>>>> ezmlm to accept message from my server (as it's not subscribed
>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>> normal means).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We haven't figured it out yet, but we're both a bit swamped this
>>>>>>> week.
>>>>>>> Hopefully we'll get it figured out eventually.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Meanwhile, 1.6 ITs were blue last night and we only have 7 test
>>>>>>> failures
>>>>>>> on master!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (big ty to Christopher and Eric as they helped those numbers)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Josh Elser wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Frak.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Realized that I need to make sure ezmlm accepts the emails I send
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> my server...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Josh Elser wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ugh, brain didn't catch up before<enter> was hit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Send me a ping if you'd like to have control to configure the
>>>>>>>>> Accumulo
>>>>>>>>> jobs and I can add an account for you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Christopher, I'll send you an email shortly with your credentials
>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>> you brought up this discussion.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Josh Elser wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ok, I figured out how to do jenkins roles so that I can limit
>>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>> down to a specific set of jobs.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'll change my nightly 1.6 and master branch IT jobs to send to
>>>>>>>>>> notifications@ and we can go from there. I won't duplicate
>>>>>>>>>> normal UT
>>>>>>>>>> jobs from apache jenkins.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mike Drob wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If it goes to notifications@ that is inherently a noisy list
>>>>>>>>>>> and I'm
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> worried about Josh taking a week off and a nightly build
>>>>>>>>>>> failing and
>>>>>>>>>>> sending an email.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Christopher, would a set of keys held in escrow cover your
>>>>>>>>>>> concerns?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Josh, thanks for doing this and keeping it running on your own
>>>>>>>>>>> dime.
>>>>>>>>>>> A
>>>>>>>>>>> real
>>>>>>>>>>> mensch!
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 13, 2015 2:43 PM, "Christopher"<[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not suggesting to impose external control. I just think
>>>>>>>>>>>> it'd be
>>>>>>>>>>>> nice to know that, if the worst were to happen, and the service
>>>>>>>>>>>> started behaving badly while you were on vacation, we'd have
>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>> recourse to control the automated notices to the email lists.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [ If you do get hit by a truck, I *will* call you out on it ;) ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Christopher L Tubbs II
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Josh
>>>>>>>>>>>> Elser<[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I wasn't clear the first time, anyone can view the results
>>>>>>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm still not sure why you feel the need to impose external
>>>>>>>>>>>>> control
>>>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> system that I'm paying for and offering to provide as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> service to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> project. Unless I get hit by a truck, it's not like I won't be
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> responsive --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and if I do rescind on that promise, you are more than
>>>>>>>>>>>>> welcome to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> call me
>>>>>>>>>>>>> out on it. Being unresponsive is one criticism that I don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> given WRT Accumulo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMO, the real question here is are people going to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>>>> results and doing anything with them? If they're just going to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/null,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's not worth it to me and I'll just do triage/fixing as I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christopher wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looks fine in Chrome to me (but my Chrome is using my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shared NSS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certificate store for my system).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't think of anything immediately to configure... just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speculating
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it might add utility when needed. At the very least, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more than one person with the ability to turn off / modify the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the mailing list, if necessary.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Being able to view the results without configuration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> permissions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still be added value on its own, though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christopher L Tubbs II
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Josh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elser<[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe this will help too. Last night's builds:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://secure.penguinsinabox.com/jenkins/job/Accumulo-1.6-Integration-Tests/325/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://secure.penguinsinabox.com/jenkins/job/Accumulo-Master-Integration-Tests/272/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you use Chrome, I don't think they accept StartCom SSL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trusted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (so you'll get the crazy-scary red warning page), but it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trusted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by default in FF.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Elser wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Presently, you can see the full workspace for the last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> job that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> run.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd have to look into Jenkins permissions, but what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exactly do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you would need to configure?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christopher wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That might only be valuable if we could log on to it to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> view
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> test
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> results and/or configure the jobs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christopher L Tubbs II
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Josh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elser<[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For those who don't know, I run a Jenkins instance on a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VPS I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running ITs for 1.6 and master nightly for some time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really nice to get these results. It has just enough
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resources to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through them reliably (some of the really heavy-handed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tests
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fail on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but personally it feels like a good baseline for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ensuring the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tests
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> runnable by anyone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If others feel like they might get value from it, I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> emails
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sent to the [email protected] list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> myself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts/Opinions?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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