I think having a divorce should be the last thing / option.

Maybe some counselling first ( Bruce is doing a good job here I think), I'm 
sure as a community it can be worked out, it be a shame for such a break up.





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> On 7 Dec 2017, at 04:20, Hadrian Zbarcea <hzbar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Clebert, I'd suggest you don't go there.
> 
> I do not imply, I state (facts or opinions). I do not represent other 
> people's opinion, just my own. I am stating that Artemis is the evolution of 
> the HornetQ donation to the ASF by RH. ActiveMQ has completely different 
> origins.
> 
> As such, I was referring to other situations in the ASF's history (which you 
> my not be aware of) when 2 factions in the community could not agree on the 
> future of that one project. The result was some kind of fork. That does not 
> apply here, ActiveMQ 5 and Artemis are 2 different projects. What facts are 
> you disputing?
> 
> This discussion is about Artemis graduation that I believe would resolve the 
> current conundrum.
> 
> Stay on topic and cool down with the creative interpretations. Read multiple 
> times what has been written if necessary.
> 
> Cheers,
> Hadrian
> 
> 
>> On 12/06/2017 10:58 PM, Clebert Suconic wrote:
>>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 10:42 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hzbar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> What am I saying? There  you have the authority in the field :).
>>> 
>>> John, the projects are in fact separated, Artemis is actually the donated
>>> HornetQ project. It's not like 2 factions don't agree on the future of one
>>> project.
>> You are implying your opinion here as everybody's. I would like to
>> listen everybody's opinion before you tell what is everybody's
>> opinion.

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