Thanks, Art, for chatting with me today and digging into things.

For the record, I personally consider the *general* matter of status for
NMS and CMS as resolved - the website will stay generally the same in the
high-level presentation for these components. Thanks, all, who contributed
to clarify the situation.

However, I do think it's worth digging into the specifics of many of the
NMS providers that Art has laid out here. Art asked about the XMS, WCF,
AMQP, & ZMQ providers. I would add MQTT & EMS. The MQTT provider has never
been released and the EMS provider was last release almost a decade ago.
Does anybody have any knowledge of where these providers stand? Are they
functional? Are they widely used?


Justin

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 7:31 PM Arthur Naseef <[email protected]> wrote:

> Chatting with Justin about NMS this afternoon, there are some specific
> questions that come up.  Note the goal here is clarity and updating the
> website (thank you Justin for working on the website).
>
> Before jumping into these questions, I want to make clear that I feel
> strongly NMS is an important part of the ActiveMQ offerings over-all.  I
> would be against attempts to deprecate the API and OpenWire parts of NMS,
> and likely others as well.
>
>    - Looking at individual NMS Providers (see this page:
>    http://activemq.apache.org/nms/)
>       - NMS.XMS
>          - The link goes to a generic description page.  Nothing else.
>          There are no download links and no references to sources.
> Makes me think,
>          does this thing even exist?
>          - So, yes it does:
>          https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/activemq-nms-xms.git
>          - There are no branches (other than master) and no tags on this
>          repo
>          - Looks like Jim Gomes has worked on this
>          - So, is this released?  If not, can we, and should we, release
> it?
>       - NMS.WCF
>          - I see a release download link here,
>          http://activemq.apache.org/nms/wcf-downloads.html
>          - However, I cannot find the sources
>          - Do we have the sources?
>       - NMS.AMQP
>          - There are 3 branches in the source tree, including one named
>          1.7.x
>          - However, there are no tags
>          - There are release notes on the web site, but no release
> downloads
>          - Was this released?  If not, can we, and should we, release it?
>       - NMS.ZMQ
>          - There are 4 branches in total, including ones named 1.5.x,
>          1.6.x, and 1.7.x
>          - I don't see this one on the website, but do see the source tree
>          (here: https://github.com/apache/activemq-nms-zmq/)
>          - There do not appear to be releases
>          - Was this released?  If not, can we, and should we, release it?
>          - Also, can we get some information to fill out on the website
>          explaining what this provider supports?
>       - How are the providers wired into the application with NMS?
>       - Are they pluggable, like the ActiveMQ java's transport mechanism
>       (e.g. tcp: chooses openwire, stomp: chooses stomp, etc)?
>
>
> I appreciate any insight that can be provided on these questions.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Art
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 4:52 PM jgenender <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Michael André Pearce wrote
> > > Be good if those PRs for CMS could reopen. It be great to have cms back
> > on
> > > track and an updated release. IMO
> >
> > +1
> >
> > I think it would be great... there are some nice patches in there.  We
> > really need to reopen that discussion for cleaning up the repo and move
> it
> > forward.  Its a nice code base.  Tim did a really nice job with it.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
>

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