Ah - I see you reverted it already Ash - good. On Thu, Sep 24, 2026 at 4:24 PM Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote:
> Consensus is broken, I am reverting it and start a discussion. > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2026 at 4:24 PM Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Sorr. I merged it because I **thought** it was non-controversial (I have >> not seen any complaints about it before) - and yeah - I wrote that if there >> will be any complaints I will revert it. >> >> I am going to do now, and start a discussion as apparently it is >> apparently controversial. I do not agree with your arguments - I think >> it's exact opposite of what you imply - and it's "centaur and not reverse >> centaur [1] (or meat proxy)" - where human is in control. >> >> BTW. I highly recommend the book "Reverse - author of the >> "Entshittification" term. The book "The Reverse Centaur's Guide to Life >> After AI" is a fantastic book, I literally swallowed it and it opened my >> eyes to many things. >> >> [1] >> https://doctorow.medium.com/https-pluralistic-net-2025-09-11-vulgar-thatcherism-there-is-an-alternative-f1428b42a8fd >> >> >> >> J >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2026 at 3:33 PM Ash Berlin-Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> No. >>> >>> -1 as it stands. >>> >>> The PR description should already be for humans only. The PR description >>> is the way the person opening the PR engages with the community, and being >>> a meat proxy shows they don’t care about the consumers of it. Your proposal >>> is reversing the priority to my mind >>> >>> I.e. I think we should remove the `Human Summary ` and `AI Summary` >>> headers, and use `<details><summary>AI Summary</summary>` instead of “click >>> here”. >>> >>> Additionally: why did you merge this PR just 30mins after sending this >>> email when the date below says “in 4 days”? >>> >>> -ash >>> >>> >>> > On 24 Sep 2026, at 13:27, Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> > Hello everyone, >>> > >>> > Following Shahar's idea - and a number of PRs he has already opened >>> this >>> > way - I would like to call for lazy consensus on making it a rule for >>> > agent-drafted PR descriptions: >>> > >>> > https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/73660 >>> > >>> > The idea is simple: >>> > >>> > * A PR description drafted by an AI agent starts with a short "Human >>> > Summary" - a few sentences typed by the human author, in their own >>> > words: why the change is needed, key decisions, caveats. >>> > * The agent-written description is still there, but below it, in an >>> > "AI Summary" section that is folded by default. >>> > * Agents are instructed to ask the user for the Human Summary and paste >>> > it verbatim - they must never write, suggest or paraphrase it >>> > themselves. >>> > >>> > This should make it much easier (not with 100% certainty, but quite >>> > reliably) to tell PRs where a human understood and owns the change >>> > apart from fully AI-generated ones. It also gives reviewers a quick, >>> > human-level "why" before they dive into the details. >>> > >>> > The PR only changes the guidance our agents follow (AGENTS.md and the >>> > PR drafting/publishing skills) plus one bullet in the Gen-AI section of >>> > contributing-docs. The regular PR template is unchanged - PRs created >>> by >>> > humans without agents are not affected. The PR itself is "dog-fed" - it >>> > uses the new format. >>> > >>> > As this is straightforward and uncontroversial, I plan to merge the PR >>> > before the lazy consensus ends. If there are objections, we can simply >>> > revert it. >>> > >>> > The lazy consensus will end on Monday, 28 September 2026, 15:00 CEST, >>> > unless there are objections. >>> > >>> > J. >>> > >>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >>> > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >>> > >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >>> >>>
