Carsten Ziegeler wrote:

Berin Loritsch wrote:
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So, if I understand this correctly, the idea is to start a new version
from scratch (of course not really from scratch we already have
the framework interfaces)?

Basically, I like the idea because by this it's possible to have a real community development effort with avoiding the one-man shows etc.


The term "one-man show" is something that is possibly misplaced. If the term refers to Phoenix - well its simply not case - Peter Donald initiated it and build a community of users and attracted developers to it. As the branch of development because interesting it attracted other developers and things grew. In the case of the Merlin project, your watching something that was initiated my myself - and over time has received contributions from Leo, Berin, Vinay, Marcus, Peter, Leif, Gary, Richard, J�rg, David, Kristian, Aaron , Laurent and probably others that I have missed. The Merlin project has not been released yet due primarily to internal Avalon politics. In spite of that, the project is growing - its community is expanding, and once we (Avalon) get past the politics - this expansion will accelerate significantly. In spite of a low contribution to noise ration from other more established committers, Merlin has gained a lot a user support. In addition, as a project is it dedicated to pushing back core reusable technologies into a common container architecture - something that impacts everyone here.


But this would only work if we could all agree on this.

So what do others think?


As I mentioned to Berin - I'm not about to start over - simply because there its just plain boring and a recepie for discontent. Been there, done that, want to continue on the really challenging stuff. Think about distributed containers, federated management, adaptive component security. This is the future - a future where it challenges the best or our abilities - a future where we are not going over old ground attempting to convince each other that direction X is the best direction.


Go for the challenges - its a lot more interesting.

Cheers, Steve.

Carsten


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