Leo Sutic wrote:
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From: Stephen McConnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
In addition, as a project is it dedicated to pushing back core
reusable
technologies into a common container architecture - something that impacts everyone here.
This is a good goal - try things out in separate containers and then merge back the code into the core.
The problem is that such merges often take on the form:
"This code works well in X. So we'll just put it in the core as it is, and no changes are allowed."
Instead of looking at the concepts of that code, and, allowing it to change, get merged into the core:
"These ideas works well in X, let's see if and when and in what form we can get them into the core."
I think this was what caused the last eruption.
Historical correction:
Lots of changes were mode to code in question as part of moving it out of Merlin and into Avalon Meta to accommodate everyone’s interests. A lot of time was spent refactoring the Merlin base to incorporate those changes. One particular proposal for change by Berin was block by veto from me on the grounds that it would be detrimental to the object model. If Berin really things that his proposed change must go through - then he can fork the project, pull a community around the fork, and propose something different. Alternatively, he can relax a little and accept that there is a perfectly good solution that meets 90% of needs. That's a decision that Berin needs to make.
No, no,no,no,no!
All forks must be approved by the PMC. The whole concept of forks and "declaring a revolution" is why we have four different containers, lack of community, and folks operating in relative ignorance of other things.
No vetos--I remember you lobbying for no vetos in the past. You issue of one (which I have failed to see on any list) is a hypocritical move.
As a PMC Chair, I declare that veto null and void. It's only purpose is to railroad your oppinion through. State your objections, and find out what others think.
We need to learn to work together. Nothing I have presented affects the object model, and has no implications whatsoever on the object model.
As to relax a little: that was my encouragement to you. I have conceded on many many points, except one. It's a decision for you to make. Learn to work with others.
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"They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin
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