Leo Sutic wrote:
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From: Stephen McConnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: den 31 juli 2003 14:51
To: Avalon Developers List
Subject: Re: [RRT] Getting back to the basics (long)
Leo Sutic wrote:
Historical correction:
reusable-----Original Message----- From: Stephen McConnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
In addition, as a project is it dedicated to pushing back core
technologies into a common container architecture - something thatThis is a good goal - try things out in separate containers and then merge back the code into the core.
impacts everyone here.
The problem is that such merges often take on the form:
"This code works well in X. So we'll just put it in the core as it is, and no changes are allowed."
Instead of looking at the concepts of that code, and, allowing it to change, get merged into the core:
"These ideas works well in X, let's see if and when and in what form we can get them into the core."
I think this was what caused the last eruption.
Lots of changes were mode to code in question as part of moving it out
of Merlin and into Avalon Meta to accommodate everyone's interests.
Historical correction - Berin's needs weren't accomodated. This should be obvious.
You playing with words - go take a look at the CVS history and checkout the changes to the package and tell me that I havn't tried to accomade everyones intereests. Berin's particular proposal was at odds with the technical integrity of the object model as I have already stated and because of this that proposal was not included.
Historical correction - there was no public discussion of the code when it was being moved. If I slept through that discussion then this point is wrong and can be ignored.
Please go back of the archives and look at the comments and and discussions relating to (a) AMTAGS, (b) the Merlin meta-info package and (c) the Avalon Meta package.
What happened was that you moved code from Merlin-specific to all-Avalon
without any prior discussion because it worked in Merlin.
The package was moved out following Berin's suggestion on that grounds that it could be used across both Merlin and Fortress. Do I have to provide evidence on this - seems like you want to hang me for something!
Then you proceeded to declare the end of the world because that code would not be accepted as-is.
No - I simply did not agree with a proposal by Berin that would have created an inconsistency between the tag layer and the underlying object model.
If I missed the discussion, and the move of code from Merlin to
Avalon-Meta was based on a community (as in all of Avalon) decision, I shall
promptly blow my head off with a howitzer or equivalent in shame, but I find no
such discussion in the ML archives nor in my memory.
Put away the artilary - and go back hunting in the archives.
Stephen.
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