Peter Courcoux wrote:
0.00002 cents worth from a lurker!
Random thoughts follow!
AF, Phoenix and Fortress are released. You're stuck with them!
Actually, no. As noted by Berin (PMC Chair), Fortress has not released by the Avalon PMC.
Berin Loritsch wrote:
I can deny that it is released in any official capacity. In fact it should
not be released in any official capacity. Releases must be approved by the
PMC, and this library has never gone up for vote. As to it being in use
and appreciated, a few folks are benefiting. As to relevant, I can't say
either way. As to supported, only by one person, not the whole of Avalon.
Peter Courcoux wrote:
>0.00002 cents worth from a lurker! > >Random thoughts follow! > >AF, Phoenix and Fortress are released. You're stuck with them! >
Actually, no!
As noted by Berin (PMC Chair), Fortress has not been released by the Avalon PMC.
Berin Loritsch wrote:
> I can deny that it is released in any official capacity. In fact it should
> not be released in any official capacity. Releases must be approved by the
> PMC, and this library has never gone up for vote. As to it being in use
> and appreciated, a few folks are benefiting. As to relevant, I can't say
> either way. As to supported, only by one person, not the whole of Avalon.
As such, Fortress is not a released Avalon product. So in reality we have Phoenix (without any viable community), Fortress (unreleased), and that radical, divergent and creative thing called Merlin.
So instead of thinking about:
! ! what is it that Avalon is obliged to live with (past tense) !
you must consider the following question ...
! !"what do we actually have to live with" (future tense) !
Don't assume that the die is cast. Instead, hold the developers in this community accountable and responsible not only to their technology but the procedures that the self-same developers proclaim to represent. Restate your questions but restate it with full and complete knowledge of the context and the implications of the questions that you raise.
Stephen.
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