> -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen McConnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > However, Merlin in Incubation has been raised and before I dismiss the > proposition out of hand - I would like to understand the fundamentals. > I want to understand the rationale, the impact on the Avalon > Community, the integrity of the proposal. Is the proposal simply a > mechanism to deal with an opinionated individual or is the proposal > grounded on some other value proposition that to-date has not been > presented? If its about an individual then the proposal is IMO > misplaced because the community is much much more important and frankly > - decisions based on individuals are not the same as decisions based on > technical merit. Does the community of users using Avalon's reference > implementation need incubation - no. They are a great community already.
IMHO Merlin should have been sent to the incubator or to a TLP when it moved out of the Avalon sandbox. At that time we could see it had potential both technologically and socially (there was a community building around it). Without going into a history lesson we all know and don't need, Merlin's scope and Avalon's scope were close, but not exactly the same. Since then, we have attempted to adjust Avalon's definition, to improve it, and in doing so, have aligned it closer to Merlin. This has also caused a number of very bad side effects, both socially and technologically. So, IMHO, the rational for moving Merlin into Incubation would be to correct this long standing mistake. To give Merlin and its community the room to grow and prosper without dealing with the other "legacy" factors in Avalon. As for what Avalon would become if Merlin moved out, well, there are a couple of options. In fact, we had one worked out here: http://wiki.apache.org/avalon/Reorganization?action=recall&date=1084098631 There would also be some matters to consider with respect to Excalibur but we could cross that bridge later. Summary: To me, it seems like this is what SHOULD have happened a long time ago. There consistently wasn't support for it. If we can drum up support for it now, I'm +1. jaaron --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
