> -----Original Message-----
> From: Farr, Aaron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 29 September 2004 23:26
> To: 'Avalon Developers List'
> Subject: RE: Stepping Back to Move Foward
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Leangen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > First, we need to have the various parties not only agree to use a
> > mediator,
> > but to committ themselves to the process. If the various parties are
not
> > committed, then there's nothing I can do. In addition, everybody has
to
> > believe that I will be unbiased and will act in the best interests
of
> all.
> > If that faith isn't there--i.e. if not everybody is able to take
that
> leap
> > of faith--then the process will fail and we'll have wasted our time.
> >
> > Let's see how everybody thinks about mediation and if you're all
ready
> to
> > seriously think about getting past the interpersonal problems to
solve
> > these issues, then I'll gladly be able to propose a process.
> 
> David,
> 
> I greatly appreciate your offer.  However, the role of mediation in
this
> case should be taken on (if at all) by the ASF Board and Avalon PMC
> (project management committee).
> 
> The Merlin team submitted a proposal to the ASF Board which was
returned
> to
> them with many comments and recommendations.  Basically, if the
developers
> still want to pursue a TLP (top level project) they need to meet the
> criteria specified by those recommendations.

Aaron:

Just for the record - before I or anyone else proceeds with the process
of raising the addressing the following subject areas - do you have any
other topics that in you opinion should be addressed beforehand?

  1. concerns related to the breakup of Avalon and how this would impact
     users here at apache and outside

  2. concerns related to the historical patterns of conflict-centered 
     processes and in particular - the potential for that process model
     to be carried over within future endeavors

  3. concerns that the separation is driven by an inability of people
     to get along together

In particular - do the above topics reasonably address the concerns
raised by the member of the board of directors?

Stephen.


> 
> jaaron
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