Thank you Dave for stepping in! I really fully support your efforts and as an Avalon PMC member I give a 100% +1 to get you in as mediator.
Andreas > -----Original Message----- > From: David Leangen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Donnerstag, 30. September 2004 06:59 > To: Avalon Developers List > Subject: RE: Stepping Back to Move Foward > > > Dear Noel, > > Thank you (and others) for your explanation. Please allow me to elaborate > a > little more. > > Indeed, I agree that the type of communication style that Stephen has been > using is problematic. However, I think that it is important not to fall > into > the blame game. > > Just as an aside, my personal feeling is that it is not unhealthy to bring > in a mediator. Quite the opposite. > > In a previous post, Leo suggested a quick read on negotiation. I commend > him > for having some knowledge of the process. If one is to dig deeper into the > field of conflict managagement, one will discover that even experienced > negotiators often refer to mediators during the negotiation process as a > normal course of action. I have several good references on negotiation > that > I can recommend for those who are interested in gaining a deeper > understanding of the dynamics of negotiation. > > (By the way, I wouldn't be proposing my services if I didn't have some > experience in negotiation and conflict management...) > > > First off, a quote from an excellent introductory book about conflict > management: > > Conflict is simply the condition in which people's > concerns--the things they care about--appear to be > incompatible. > > ... > > Many people make the mistake of equating conflict > with fighting--arguing, blaming, name-calling, and > so on.[1] > > > Conflict is therefore not only natural, but healthy. It is the way in > which > conflict is dealt with that determines the outcome. > > > Personally, I believe that calling in a mediator would actually be a > mature, > responsible approach. Contrary to your very valid concerns, I personally > believe quite the opposite: it would show the Board that you are able to > get > past your personal issues and get on with business in the most efficient > way > possible. > > Unfortunately, however, many people often feel that such a process equates > to failure of negotiations, which I do not believe is true. > > > Again, in no way do I wish to try to convince you of anything. Since many > people have not had the fortunate experience of dealing with a mediator, I > believe that people's perception may be off. So, I'm just trying to be > informative. > > > Best wishes, > Dave > > > > > [1] Introduction to Conflict Management -- Kenneth W. Thomas > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 30 September 2004 13:29 > > To: Avalon Developers List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: Stepping Back to Move Foward > > > > > > David, > > > > I appreciate your thoughtful and dispassionate comments. As you said, > in > > order for mediation to work, the parties must all be willing to > > come to the > > table. In this case, the ASF is not likely to change from its core > > philosophies regarding community development based upon respect and > > collaboration amongst peers. > > > > Stephen tends to use hyperbole, such as claiming that people view > > him as the > > spawn of satan, to deflect the fact that he has contributed to a > problem. > > Regardless of what anyone else has contributed to the problem, until and > > unless he is willing to recognize his own role, no amount of > > mediation would > > be effective. However, if the Merlin community is willing to go > > through the > > Incubator, and if the ASF is willing to permit that, you'd be welcomed > to > > participate. :-) > > > > --- Noel > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.768 / Virus Database: 515 - Release Date: 22.09.2004 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.768 / Virus Database: 515 - Release Date: 22.09.2004 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
