Thanks for the update Frances.

I will ping my infra contact to move forward quickly.

Regards
JB

On 10/10/2016 07:27 PM, Frances Perry wrote:
Related to #3-5: Also, as we discussed earlier [1], there will be an
additional level of tracking in jira for deeper proposal-style
conversations to help us keep track of which ones are still under
discussion on the dev@ list (which, as usual, remains the source of truth).

The details are still in a pull request [2], which is blocked on a creation
of the new JIRA workflow [3].

[1]
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/f030424d9f9de6ff7510ff444280a64bdaa0ac430066e96df0c43fe8@%3Cdev.beam.apache.org%3E
[2] https://github.com/apache/incubator-beam-site/pull/42
[3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-12698

On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]>
wrote:

Hi Max and the others,

For 5, it was more the idea to have a agreement on a proposal. 2 weeks
without any feedback (it's not two weeks "static") is just an idea. The
discussion can be extended for as long as we want if there are still some
discussions.

Agree on 4, it's just a best effort. The idea is to provide kind of
summary sometime in order to hide some details and technical complexity
that don't always bring value from a community perspective.

I will send an update later today about what we discussed.

Thanks
Regards
JB


On 10/07/2016 10:58 AM, Maximilian Michels wrote:

Hi JB!

1. We create a new mailing list: [email protected].
2. We configure github integration to send all pull request comments on
review mailing list. It would allow to track and simplify the way to read
the comments and to keep up to date.


I already have it organized that way through filters but having a
dedicated mailing list is a much better idea.

3. A technical discussion should be send on dev mailing list with the
[DISCUSS] keyword in the subject.
4. Once a discussion is open, the author should periodically send an
update on the discussion (once a week) >containing a summary of the last
exchanges happened on the Jira or github (quick and direct summary).


We can try that on a best-effort basis. Enforcing this seems to be
difficult and could also introduce verbosity on the mailing list.

5. Once we consider the discussion close (no update in the last two
weeks), the author send a [CLOSE] e-mail on the thread.


I think it is hard to decide when a discussion is closed. Two weeks
seems like a too short amount of time.

In general, +1 for an open development process.

-Max

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 4:05 AM, Jungtaek Lim <[email protected]> wrote:

+1 except [4] for me, too. [4] may be replaced with linking DISCUSSION
mail
thread archive to JIRA.
Yes it doesn't update news on discussion to JIRA and/or Github, but at
least someone needed to see can find out manually.

Thanks,
Jungtaek Lim (HeartSaVioR)

2016년 10월 7일 (금) 오전 11:00, Satish Duggana <[email protected]>님이
작성:

+1 for proposal except for [4]. Agree with Raghu on [4] as it may be
burdensome to update with summaries and folks may start replying
comments
on those summaries etc and conclusions are updated on respective design
docs. We may want to start without [4].

Thanks,
Satish.

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 12:00 AM, Raghu Angadi
<[email protected]>
wrote:

+1 for [email protected]. Open lists are critically
important.

My comment earlier was mainly about (4). Sorry about the not being
clear.

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Lukasz Cwik <[email protected]

wrote:

+1 for supporting different working styles.

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Kenneth Knowles

<[email protected]


wrote:

+1 to [email protected] if it is turnkey for infra to

set

up, aka points 1 and 2.

Even though I would not personally read it via email, getting the
information in yet another format and infrastructure (and

stewardship)

is

valuable for search, archival, and supporting diverse work styles.

The

benefit might not be huge, but I think it will be enough to justify

the

(hopefully negligible) cost.

Kenn

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 4:54 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]


wrote:

Hi team,

following the discussion we had about technical discussion that

should

happen on the mailing list, I would like to propose the following:

1. We create a new mailing list: [email protected].
2. We configure github integration to send all pull request comments

on

review mailing list. It would allow to track and simplify the way to
read the comments and to keep up to date.
3. A technical discussion should be send on dev mailing list with the
[DISCUSS] keyword in the subject.
4. Once a discussion is open, the author should periodically send an
update on the discussion (once a week) containing a summary of the

last

exchanges happened on the Jira or github (quick and direct summary).
5. Once we consider the discussion close (no update in the last two
weeks), the author send a [CLOSE] e-mail on the thread.

WDYT ?

Regards
JB
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