On Sun, 28 Jan 2007, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:

> So translating:
>
>       locale -- not sure why we need this?
I am not sure either. Locale information is generally needed only if the text 
is NOT  encoded in unicode. In the case where you have a 8bit character codes 
and need the locale to determine the font mapping. I do not think Writer 
would be preserving text this any way - text imported / pasted into a Writer 
document would be converted into the document wide encoding. 

>       prefix -- already have
>       suffix -- already have
>       page -- already have (but richer, because not limited to pages)
>
> And then a second group which is more the flags I was asking about:
>
>       suppress-author
>       suppress-year
As in - 'In 1905 two fundamental physics papers were published (Heisenberg) 
and (Einstein). ?
>       suppress-title
Maybe there is some intext style that has a title as well (not that I can say 
I have ever seen one).
>
> Am still not really clear when you'd need the last two, but would be
> happy to recommend these. But since here they are flags like this, it
> might be valuable to have these as dedicated attributes, rather than
> simple values of a single attribute (which would not allow one to mix
> the options).
>
> Any options?
Do you need to be able to specify all style attributes like  "suppress-author" 
as part of the specification you are working on ?
As in -
biblioref-attlist &= attribute meta:resource { xsd:anyURI }, attribute 
cite:style { "suppress-author" }

Perhaps you could have something like -

biblioref-attlist &= attribute meta:resource { xsd:anyURI }, attribute 
cite:style:suppress { "author, title, ..." }

were the options for cite:style:suppress is the list of fields available.

Otherwise we will be sure of latter coming up with something that has not be 
listed in the specification  stage. 

I was thinking that with footnote citations perhaps a person may want to be 
able to suppress any part of the citation. For example if I was discussing 
the Proceedings of the First International Conference on the Ulster Cycle of 
Tales, Belfast and Emain Macha, held 8-12 April 1994. As I cited each paper I 
probably would not want to repeat the full publishing and conference 
details -

Tristram, Hildegard L. C. “What is the Purpose of the Táin Bó Cúalnge?” In 
Ulidia: Proceedings of the First International Conference on the Ulster Cycle 
of Tales, Belfast and Emain Macha, 8-12 April 1994. Edited by J. P. Mallory, 
11-21. Belfast: December Publications, 1994.

However having the ability to define a custom citation provides another way of 
dealing with this problem without a lot of suppress field switches.

I hope this helps

David
>
> Bruce
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