Dare I say that it sounds like this needs a layer of indirection?
ie Styles define a few 'in-page' ways of citing. Author-Year has
'cite all in parens', and cite Author outside parens and year inside.
You might want title only as well. Some styles separate Author and
Year with a comma and some with a semi-colon.
The style defined ways of citing are collections of specific flags
that affect the actual formatting.
Some styles will need rules like 'if this is the first cite, list all
the authors, use et al. after that'.
From time to time users are going to want to drop out of the style
defined ways of citing and use the flags themselves (ie I like this
style in general, but I want a comma instead of a semi-colon
separating the Author-Year.)
So I think we're going to need a lot of flags (at least the options
that natbib and jurabib have) and a way to define 'groups of flags'
in the style files (equivalent to \citet and \citep).
On Jan 27, 2007, at 6:23 PM, David Wilson wrote:
Our emails have crossed each other.
You are right for many fields there may be a need to select short/
long and or
suppress/display.
To add to my previous suggestion of -
biblioref-attlist &= attribute meta:resource { xsd:anyURI }, attribute
cite:style:suppress { "author, title, ..." }
To Add
cite:style:short { " title." }
cite:style:long { "conference" }
cite:style:display { "ISBN" }
The cite:style:display would add a field not normally part of the
citation.
How formatted ? probably just tacked on at the end - unless we have
a whole
set of provisionally formatting rules which define the format
(position &
punctuation) of field not normally used.
David
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
On Jan 27, 2007, at 4:19 PM, David Wilson wrote:
Am I right in thinking that Microsoft's citation systems does not
support
footnote citations.
Yes, that is correct. They also don't do author-year citations
right in
Word 2007 ;-)
And that do not have footnote citation flags defined in
case they might support it in the future ?
Yes. Here's the tricky thing though:
To the degree possible, local styling should be abstracted from the
style, such that one can change to and from note and other styles
without modifying the source.
How would that affect the requirement to add the two you suggested?
*Force Short/long title,
*Suppress Publisher
More broadly, under what conditions would one use these options in a
note style?
I also wonder whether these specific "suppress" options in general
aren't more like a "use short form" switch? Put differently, what
would
happen if we only had two options: short and full?
Just thinking out loud ...
Bruce
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